Hey Aliginge, you got your shadows wrong, check this thread to know how to do them
(Search for a post made by Kitsu, see the images, they are easy to understand).
Also, read this book about perspective, its old, but great, you will learn a lot with it:
(Lots of books, search for: "The Theory and Practice Of Perspective")
Thank you for the links, but could I ask you to be specific and perhaps show me how I got them wrong please? It could be a million things as far as I'm concerned and I just don't know where to start with it. :/
Sure, check the direction of light, in your drawing you made it like if the lightsource where in the middle of the object, but its not, its up on the horizon, i hope this drawing helps, but read the book and trough the tutorials! without reading you wotn progress
I really don't mean to be picky, because I do appreciate someone coming forward and trying to help with this, but I worked all the shadows from a light source in the middle of all the objects, as opposed to a solar-type light. As I understand it, a solar light would have the light vanishing point on the horizon, whereas an artificial light source, such as what I used, would have it's base marked as the vanishing points for the shadows, which would not be on the horizon, but vertically below the light source, like at the base of a lamp.Originally Posted by Christian223
On your diagram, you placed the shadow VP at the horizon, which, when mentioned in uRiDiAN's post would indicate a solar light in front of the viewer, rather than an artificial light with the shadow VP far lower.
As for any other comments and constructive criticism, keep them coming in
Oh, i thought you where using two different lightsources at first, because you made the base and and light look the same, that confused me.
But yeah, you are right, a solar lightsource would have been in the horizon line wich i drawed in my example. Everyting seems allright then. Also, try to search Anrew loomis book "succesfull drawing" it will help you a lot.
It's alive! :]
Cup of Joe, the fully lit side shouldn't at all be that light. I figured that now, but my biggest concern is about the darkened side (the cube's left side from our POV). It should be a lighter value than the cast shadow, or vice versa?
Yaya. I made it again and I will post it together with some line only drawings. Been drawing and pixelpainting for like 5-6 hours straight now. I'll scan tomorrow, hope someone can comment then!
Alliginge: Not sure about the technical aspects, the values and such.
But compositionwise it'd be much better to move your lightsource away from your objects, and make your objects relate to eachother.
As said, casting shadows on another object is great practice. I did the exercise again, and I will try to take it further, I found that shadows of one object falling on another is really hard to figure out on my own. That's why I'll post here and ask for pointers
.peace and thanks!
Last edited by Olof; July 28th, 2006 at 11:11 PM.
Here we go..
Topic 4 - Linedrawing
Not the only who loves his games, eh?
It's made on paper that is larger than a3, and my scanner is only a4. Tried to puzzle them together but with no greater success. I scanned the most important parts I believe.
This assignment made me wonder about the importance of lines. I might not have to draw the lines around it, you'll know they are there even if I don't mark them out. I kept it very loose on the first ones (the topleft). I wonder if I couldn't remove the longer lines on the sides and still I'd read it as a "brick" shape.
However, my lineworks is kinda bad. So I've done two "classes" of fast figure drawing. 2 Minute poses, 25 pictures on each one plus two longer rendered poses. They're done from porn references, so I'll link them instead of [lMG]-tag them.
Scanned backwards, where 04 was drawn first etc. Only scanned the better ones. Same paper here as the DS-drawings.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/06072701.jpg - Render one
Topic 6 - Piece of Paper
Hard one. I did some more but they're not recognisable as a piece of paper. Maybe this one isn't either, but it was better than the other one
Topic 1 - Remake of the shapes. Now without a cone!
Trying to work some basic pixels. It's hard I tell ya. This took me almost 2 hours, and still I only pointed out the basic cast shadow in 8 frames and it's not even close to good! It bugs me that I couldn't crop the animation, nor copy a selected area of all layers. It's only supposed to be the background coloured area sized. Yaya.
I wanted to do a full rendered one but I have to sleep some :] . I'll probably try this again with less objects, but some more complicated. Like figures-> humans or creatures. Gotta practice more...
I did do the fifth topic but I didn't want to scan it. It was hard and I know it's necessary to know your media and practice to control it is important. Lazy
Hi there! I know I'm jumping into the mix late, but I just found this thread. And I think I read back there on the first page that you didnt mind people starting from the beginning and jumping in late. This is my very first drawing post on CA.org.
I plan on doing all of the exercises, but heres the 4 shapes on a plane. I dont have a scanner and the picture was taken at a slight angle so some of the lines dont look as straight as they do on paper. Also, I corrected the very bottom of the cube right after the picture was taken (looks a little crooked in the picture). How am I doing?
Ok, I completed the second and third topic as well.
Behold my mouse and a glass! I dont have a scanner so these were all taken with a digital camera. I would love some critiques. I'm really enjoying these exercises!
I'm not totally new to drawing but i haven't had much formal training so doing these excersises would be of benefit to myself.
I'm glad i decided to participate, because after doing the first drill, i realized how horrific my basic skills are. D=
I haven't messed around with perspective much in the past so i was attempting to include them here - and failed.
I'm certain the shadows are all cast wrong but what's worse is that i don't know exactly what's wrong with them.
I'm looking forward to your critiques.
This is a great thread. Anyone mind if I jump in and try to catch up from the beginning?
hey peeps, im not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but im looking for some pointers on my shading piece of work.
i love drawing but dun have a chance to study art, yeah so i hope i could learn some pointers through this forums instead
I'm a beginner like you, and seeing that people don't come to this thread as they used to, I'm going to give you my opinion on your piece.
First of all, the shading overlaps the line in several areas, and I know that happens to me too. Come to think of it, I guess it's about impatience, trying to get the piece finished quicker.
Second, the shading is a bit dull. Try using more contrast, lighter in light, darker in shaded areas. I myself have this problem, but slightly different. If you check the first picture in my post above, the cone looks too flat because I shaded with too much black all over the shaded area.
Hope this helps!
p.s. now looking at my perspective assignment, I can see a lot of errors. The cube's perspective is wrong, the shadows are not cast from the same light source, and more. Time to get drawing!
This is probably not the best thread for this sort of thing, perfection. You're more likely to get help on this particular drawing if you post it in the critique center or start a sketchbook. This thread is really just for doing these exercises and getting feedback.
As far as that particular drawing, the line work looks good, but your shading looks hurried and a little messy. It doesnt really suggest any form. Try doing the exercises in this thread. I think you could really benefit from them.
I started doing these today, I plan to finish all of them. It doesn't look like many people come here anymore but, oh well, it's still worth just doing the excercises. I have done through the crumpled paper excercise but I will redo that one. I have included my crumpled paper one just to get some critiques on what I am doing wrong but I will post another tommorow. As you can see my scanner is scanning them a little light ( they were drawn a little too light as well), take a look at the scale for reference. I will try to fix that for the ones I post later.Thanks in advance for your help.
im going tooo revive this thread... BUMP!!!
Mainloop- man i must be dyslexic.. cuz i thought you asked how many people are on lsd
I meant to do this and post it up the next day but ran into computer trouble and had to reinstall windows. Anyway, This is the paper one redone, it is a bit better but still needs a lot of improvement, I'll definitely keep doing them.
i uploaded these again.. took down my old ones... As u can see my first attempt was the upper right hand corner one then if yoou move counter clockwise you can see where i start piecing things together and understanding certain mechanics about how light on paper works... im going to try and do the crumbled paper one again... i'll leave comments tomorrow... its late and i need sleep
Mainloop- man i must be dyslexic.. cuz i thought you asked how many people are on lsd
Vigostar, those drawing are very good. I really like the line youu employ, and the shading is pretty good! Did you use a ball-pen for those drawings? I never tried to use a pen for this kind of exercises.
Keep it up! I will try to upload my crumpled paper drawings tomorrow.
I need to try to find my old art supplies. I want to jump on board. I skipped from page 1 to 4, but are there only 4 exercises? Seems like we should have another veteran take over and give us work. This looks like a good thing for noobs like me!
Ok I'm new to all forms of art mostly because I could never really draw on paper without making eraser holes in it...OCD tends to do that lol, but I'm getting a Graphics Tablet soon and I will be doing all of the assignments from the beginning. I hope that this thread comes back to life as I know I will be needing a lot of feedback.
I'm a Greenhorn and this looks realy useful and I'd like to join in. Unfortunatly it doesnt look very much alife. Is there any possibility we might start this again? Or should I just post my sketches to reanimate it?
Hmm Vigostar, since you seem to be the best one of those left visiting this thread, care to take over leadership here - if no one feels offended or anything. Just announcing new topics and something like that
I myself made a huge pause (school can really ruin up your timeplan) but now, since it`s holidays and, normally, school starts very slowly after them, I do have more time. If you (or anyone else) could reanimate this thread to past glory, I`d be glad
One of these days I`m gonna post again here
There is a day when all departs
I´m coming out of age,
all your chains and all your wards
someday will be unmade.
Be prepared of me these days
as all of you shall be
when all my false and rodent faiths
break ´way just as do we.