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Infinitum: Thanx for the crit. Reason for why I used lined paper was because I used my mathbook. From now on, only plain white drawing paper. Thanx again
Vigostar - Thanks for commenting. Good idea about the horizon or table. It would give it a sense of place. As for the core shadows, I see exactly what you mean. However believe it or not the original drawing isn't that dark. It is good advice though so I will bear it in mind.
Thanks for posting.
Karder - No problem. When I was at school I used to draw in my maths books all the time (which upset my teachers of course). However after a while I realized it was interfering with my drawings and also looked very unpresentable so I switched to plain. So good decision to use the plain paper it will help you alot.
Kei-th--- I created a rough 3D model of your scene, it will help to actually see the shadows in relationship to the light. If anyone else wants a 3D rough let me know.
Infinitum--Let me know if this is helpful?
Thanks for posting that dank0043. I am surprised how well you have replicated Kei-th's layout. I think that does help. 3d can be a useful tool. I think that shows the shadows very well.
By the way, what program did you use. I do some 3d animation myself so it is an interest of mine.
Infinitum-- Thanks I tried to get the scene close, I use Cinema 4D...it is a solid 3D program not as versitile as Maya. This is a great thread by the way.
dank0043 - I've heard cinema 4D is good. I use lightwave now but I have used 3d studio max in the past. They are both good programs too.
I'm pleased you like this thread. Are you thinking of joining by the way?
Infinitum--Yes, both are really good programs i am mac based so I have had limited exp. with StudioMax. I will join up on this thread, however my job is getting busy right now so i will post when I can.
dank0043 Thanks but I can't see the image when I click the link.. I get a male chicken.. But thanks for the idea!
I used 3d my self! I used 3dsm!
Here is my best result:
But yeah there are some probs in it still.. But it's a half year ago that I used the program.
Kei-th - Thats not bad. Your 3d is quite good. I like the way you have lit the scene.
I will post the next topic today once Orkun has done his drawing. I don't want to leave anyone behind so early, thats why i'm waiting.
I've talked to Orkun and he is very busy so he will do his when he can and I will help him then. So i'm going to post the next topic.
Ok so for the next topic I think it would be a good idea to apply the skills used in the last one to an actual picture.
So the the topic will be to draw a small object from life. Choose something small but interesting such as a watch, mp3 player, memory pen etc. Then put it on a table or similar flat surface and try and draw it as accurately as possible. Keep in mind the skills used and learnt in the last topic.
Good luck everyone, I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
Last edited by Infinitum; April 6th, 2006 at 06:18 AM.
Thanks for the comments on my last post everyone! I'll try to crit some other works this round.
Re-did the first one. Vigostar was right, last time I was just being lazy. Sorry about that. Did a proper one this time. There are some more grays that my scanner didn't pick up too.
Did the new project too. I probably should have chosen an object with more of a shadow.
Glad to see this thing is getting such a good response! I think this may really go places!
Tomorrow I will do an other attempt.
No perspective set up used.
In the 4th image the perspective is out of shape.
I hope I will have some beter results tomorrow! Can some one give me some advice how to start life drawing? I have troubles with it..
I'm in no way an expert, but when I draw something, I usually draw a staight line through the length of an object, just so I know how big I want to make it. Then I make marks where major landmarks are and do quick lines for angles and such. Then I erase these, but just so they're faded, and draw details over top. I suppose a good method to apply to life-drawing would be the "sub-divide method". There is a much better explanation of this in Pixeldragoon's sketchbook. (If you can't find it, I'll scrounge it up for you.)Originally Posted by Kei-thCan some one give me some advice how to start life drawing? I have troubles with it..
Hope this was at least a little helpful!
Last edited by Cup of Joe; April 1st, 2006 at 11:50 PM.
Yeah that's a good idea! because my drawings always end up out of shape because one length is wrong compared to another length!
I will have a look at Pixeldragoon's skecthbook, if I can find it!
EDIT: I found it! But it's a huge sb
here is my small object of life. I decided to make my MP3 player since I would listen to it while drawing -_-. I leveled the picture a bit on photoshop (I hope thats ok) because when I scanned it, you could barely see the parts where the pencil shade was light. so i just enhanced the shadows to make them look the same as the original drawing.
Kei-th- THIS is what I was talking about. I decided to put it up here because I forgot to mention it was actually about figure drawing, but I think the same thing could be applied to life.
cup of joe thanks! it will help me!
kais really nice! but maybe you shouldn't line out the shadow before you actually color it. because now the shade goes from dark to light and then a line.
Good work everyone. Nice to see some of you are staying with this.
Cup of Joe - It's good that you redid this. I can see you have learnt from what has been said. The only thing I would say about it is the perspective on the cube is a bit out. Try to pictur a vanishing point for your image even if you don't fully draw it in a technical way. The other thing I would say is to try and create a smoother rendering. Take your time over it.
You've done a good job of the new topic. However try to make your lines firmer and your rendering smoother. Work on values to add more contrast to your work.
Kei-th - I think for this you would have been better off focusing on one object like I said and trying to do that one really well. This looks like you have tried to do too much. I think it would be best if you did like you said and do another one tommorow. Try and include more shading and work on your perspective.
As for life drawing you could join a class or get some books but if you are patient we will begetting to that in this anyway.
Kais - Nice drawing. I like it. I think the main thing you should work on has already been said. if you are going to mark where the shadow will go you need to shade up to it so that the line is no longer visible. But apart from that good job.
Well done everyone.
Here is mine.
nice! really good drawing! But I think you perspective is just a tinny bit wrong. the back site looks strangeI need to spent more time on my drawings
Thanks - Kei-th. Your right about the perspective. It was a surprisingly difficult shape to draw.
Don't worry about your drawing. You just tried to do to much thats all. Try again, but really focus on one object this time. Also you would find it easier if you chose an object with more detail.
i did when i was working.. also work place.. but i think not so good..
but i catched up
Cool they are not so bad! Just think more about the perspective!
I hope this image will speak for itself!
Good Job at catching up Orkun. The first one is quite well drawn. The perspective is slightly out though. I think the main thing you should work on is the tones. You have shaded everything in almost the same shade. Try to make mor contrast between your tone.
The second one is not bad as well. However try to make your lines firmer. For something like this it is best to use a ruler. Having straight lines will give more of a feeling of solidity. As kei-th has said the perspective is out but it is not by much.
Well done at catching up. You will be ready for the next topic when I post it in the morning.
Kei-th - I think the point you are trying to get across may be wrong. I assume you are saying that the image should have a second vanishing point. Actually at this angle both vanishing points should be far off of the page.
Vanishing point 1 is the one that is in the wrong place. Those lines converge at to strong an angle.
Thanks for trying to help with the perspective though.
hmm ok you are probably right about this.. but even then both VP's should be on the same HZ and in this case they won't.. My oppinion the lines going to VP2 are angled in the wrong position.. I could be wrong ofcourse
they will both be on the horizon. Your lines should be converging in the oposite direction. The view of the box is fairly overhead, the horizon is far far too close to the object for that point of view if it's to be laying on the ground. The only way it would be seen in that perspective (if the horizon were accurate) would be if it were leaning up against something and not parallel to the ground plane. you'd need to create a new horizon for the object parallel to it's bottom surface.
edit: oh, sorry, missed the point of the comment. The perspective is a bit wonky on the object. Just looks there wasn't enough care taken to understand it
Thanks for that DavePalumbo, you explained that very well. Those are good points. Thanks for posting.
im new here and want to get the basics down...ill be joining in this as well..hope to get the sketches done and posted tommorow
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this is the shapes one ...soon to add the life object
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Nice. But maybe you want to turn it 90° degrees CCW. it's easier for the eyes.
the shapes are good but you should work more on the shadow because a shadow which become wider in the cilinder shade.. hmm
I will try to make a new drawing from life today! I was really bussy last few days