all of my beginner sketches so far. hopefully it will get better as i start to study and whatnott.
It will only get better with patience and practice, just be sure to keep your end of the bargain and never give up. Good start.
just did these over the weekend..
the one with the two little girls isnt done but the boy is as far as sketching it out.
Theres progress made, and to be made in your book maby you should study the human head, so you can get the postion of your faces right.
Loving that broekn up peice with the eye and lip ect, its great!
Search arround peoples sketch books to see how they do their heads, i have problems with them too but every ones willing to help you here
Check out my book if you get tha chance
Keep up the great work! and welcome
nice ur into art, the best advice i can give you is draw a lot, and mostly from reference. besides that, draw what you see, not what you THINK you see. thats one to think about, huh?
just learn observing, it will help a lot!
My sketchbook: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...106521&page=11
If you're drawing from photo ref's, don't be afraid to use a ruler to get some rough guides. Measue out top of head, shoulders, rib cage, belly button, top of legs, bottom of crotch, knees & feet on the photo, measure out some lines on your page (lightly) of roughly the same proportion and use those guidelines to remember what size things are in relation to each other. Don't stick RIGIDLY to them, just use them as guidelines for your first few photo refs. You'll soon move away from needing such props.
Also/Or do all those proportion excercises from any "How to draw the human body" books, Bridgeman, etc.
I like your sense of colour and there's definately a good start in your stuff, but your people are suffering from big-head-itis. Proportion, proportion proportion!
ha ok thanks alot ill definitely be getting some books cause ive gotten the big head comment more than once
the little boy looks good at first glance but doesnt take long to realise proportions r out.
so relevant studies for u is the head structure and proportions.
a few links can be found at my sketchobook if u want to take a look (links r not posted by me, they from other vieweers).
keep it up but imo id keep off proper pictures for now and stick with the studies and ull see how much of a difference it will make.
Check out my SKETCHBOOK ...looking for helpful advice!
english boy doodle thing
just an update
Good to see you've started a SB.
There are plenty of great threads on advice for beginners here, so dig around.
Remember that you can only get better, so keep drawing.
Try getting some life studies and keeping the beginning steps simple...make concious measurements between different key points on the face.
he looks like hes falling back cause in the ref. he was leaning on an exercise ball.
hey its always great to see someone working hard at their foundation studies.
just one little tip when drawing something from ref/life etc:
always "Compare". say when you're drawing the hand, dont just look at the hand, always compare with some other body part or part of the object. this helps you keep everything in proportion. take your latest sketch for example in relation to this...put your own hand up to your face and compare, their size isn't that different is it? i'm not trying to be harsh or anything mind you, its just that i used to have the whole big head, small hands problem alot and this is one way of solving that.
i'm sure you know this already but try bridgmans, hogarth, loomis books etc to understand some fundamental rules and other important aspects of anatomy.
keep working hard!
Agreed with paperX 1 million% comparing, measuring with your eyes and comparing angles is the best way to get the most out of reference drawing. THAT was the big breakthrough I had, was wehn I finally learned to measure with my eyes. Always compare sizes of different elements and ever be afraid to try again to get it right.
BUT I'd say before doing a lot of observational studies of people, you should probably get some good muscle reference and do some anatomy studies. By learning some of the main muscles before had, you can identify them during your figure studies and be able to tie the two ideas together; the muscle underneath and how it really looks on the surface.
I agree with rhine on this one - you are definitely gonna want to study more about anatomy before just diving into life drawing like this. If you don't know what it is you're looking for or at it'll just take longer to figure out where the problems are. From your comments it seems like you're having trouble finding the problems in your own pieces, and I definitely remember being the same way. I used to get the huge head comment all the time, and looking back on it I don't know how I didn't notice haha, but I guess it's just something that clicks eventually. The same I'm sure is true with most problems in a piece.
since no ones dropped any specifics exactly i went to amazon and found a book I personally am finding very useful for understand the form and function of the body http://www.amazon.com/Constructive-A...7797165&sr=8-2 (paperx did mention bridgeman!! ) It's fairly cheap and definitely worth the price for how much information there is in there.
also it's not so important that you learn the muscles of the body, or memorize their names, as it is to understand why the body is formed the way it is. Big heads just won't make sense to you anymore once you have a stronger understanding of musculature and anatomy in general, our necks would just be fucked . Also I would suggest checking out a LOT of other peoples art, and I mean a LOT. I don't think anything helped me more than just checking out so much of the fantastic art their is online, and in this day and age theirs no excuse not to!! its like having an infinitely huge museum right at your home. Not only will this help you find the flaws in your own work, but it will also probably inspire you to do more and more art
keep it up!! you're definitely on the right track (oh and just avoid using photo referance if at all possible to begin with, get into a life study class if you can - having a volumetric form rather than a flat picture helps soooooooooooooooooo much more)
-- oh and free loomis!! http://acid.noobgrinder.com/Loomis/
hopes this helps ^^
thanks to the last three people. i know my proportions are wrong so those comparing tips will help. i dont really have any way to study anything though right now, but i did these two from life yesterday. i didnt compare on either though cause i just read those comments now so :/. both moved alot, less the dog cause shes old and was sleeping, but she still moved positions like twice so its a little lost in translation in some places. more comments please i think its really helping.
I agree with JRStagg, the last two were a huge jump from your earlier stuff.
my little crit on the dog would be with the paw, I can't really tell what part of its foot the darker areas are (not the nail the areas underneath) but yeah thats it and it might just be something I'd understand with a better photo or just seeing what the dog looked like.
As far as proportions go you could look up some Andrew Loomis books and check out some of the diagrams he has, I found them helpful anyways.
nice improvements from your first post and keep up the good work!
sorry, I was thinking about something. what'd you say again?
>check out my sketchbook<
thanks alott. yea the ear looks kindve low or something, like i said lost in translation. the dark spots under the nails are the pads of her feet, but i just noticed they dont have much dimension. she moved her paw completely so i had to mostly move it in my mind when i was drawing it.
but yea basically thanks ill be working on anatomy now
Yeah, the last 2 are a HUGE improvement. Your observatory skills are impressive (due to your last post)
It's funny how you said "I had to mostly move it in my mind when I was drawing it." cause, essentially, it's the skill that all illustrators need.
Personally I think you need to study dimension and boxes..yes boxes, spheres, cylinders, pyramids and whatnot. Don't take this as a bad thing but you're still at the beginning stages of realizing that your mind-eye has to be able to recognize the paper as a 3-dimensional plane rather than a 2-d piece of paper.
Usually professors get new students to draw countless of different simple 3-dimensional shapes in all sorts of angles, depths and light exposures before they move on to the human body.
You definitely have something going here. My only real suggestion is the simple geometric shapes. Any approach works really. In my experience I've found the shapes most effective.
PS: if you ever want some random life drawing quick try this site. It works pretty well
added some more shading.. crits?
Study? You must not study. You must practice practice practice with the energy of a thousand suns! You seem to be very good at giving your drawings expressions and that, I think, hints at great potential. Proportions are killing your sense of realism though... In the anatomy study, everything is out of whack both anatomically and aesthetically.
You show promise. Cheers.
ha k thanks. ok so now i tried to fix the arm so the head doesnt look big. someone tell me it doesnt look big?
Sorry to dissapoint you, but that shoulder still looks too small to my eyes (the one closer to us). Do you have the reference picture? It's getting closer. I guess that it may be small enough cos he's young, but it seems to small.
Like this one here. Okay, it was hard to find a decent picture of a young boys head, but in this shilouette (sp?) you can see the chest has a little more volume than you gave it. Hope that helps?
You know, I swear you look almost identical to someone I know, who's also, by complete coincidence, called Katie. She lives in England though, so don't worry too much ;]. Still, nice seeing the improvements you've made already in general - as the others have said, it's fairly large. Your current piece looks far better than the other one of a boy you did - the English riding one. The only thing that really sticks out to me, other than the shoulder, is the angular nature of the chin; as in donalfall's image, I would have thought it to be far more rounded. Anyways, good luck with it!
thanks. there is no reference picture it was my little bro. but i tried to fix it again. i might just need to wait til i see him again. but i just did the following one too
Last edited by artmakessense; December 21st, 2007 at 03:38 PM.
great improvements katie! compare that with your first post and the difference is astounding
just watch out for some minor issues, the face looks a bit too wide around the eye area and the ears are a bit bunched up and small, i find the bottom of the ear lobe is usually more or less in line with the bottom of the nose in a profile face.
her head also looks a bit too big for her face, just judging from the size of her torso compared with her head, remember, compare
keep up the great work, you're making awesome progress already!