Nice ones But just like last time, I can't really say much about them, I can't criticize 3d stuff and I'm not Plissken
Hey Lightship, I wanted to give my thanks for stopping by my sketchbook time and again.
Keep up those studies
Sketchbook: There and Back again Updated- 7/04/12
But no my friend!
You definitely deserve every bit of our praises, cause
you are truly like a hero among the acid bathed sour cherry trees.
Your art shines bright and you do not hesitate to confront any new
challenge. Like a knight in the medieval darkest pub. You are always
humble and show attention and respect to the people around you.
You are polite and not acting like Freddy Krueger did when he purchased
his last hat in the suburban China shop. That is why I like to visit here
and to view the beauty of your newly created 3D art set.
Semi-Conducted Fantasticum unrevealed is what we got served.
Your plate is pure silver and it always delivers.
It's a nice friendly personal topic enough to talk to someone else here so here I go:
Plissken, what kind of drugs are you using nowadays? Your comments were interesting enough before but now they seem to be on a new level
my question is can we share !!?? ha ha ha ha
Thanks all of you for visiting and I shall post something new very shortly.
I have been asked by a local school to do something for them to help support some early readers, basically to do some fun and silly images that supprt the use of the first key words. Thses key words are the ones like "said, dog, cat, big, look, he, she" and so on and so forth. They are to be used in repetition as follows "I look up, She looks up, we all look up", so you see we are talking very basic level reading, but I have to present it in a fun and entertaining manner......... that is the challenge.
If you have any ideas for images of the following characters that are fun and entertaining or want to create some feel free to post. I am going to put this same thing up in the W.I.P. section too and see if anyone wants to play.
There are loads of these simple books done every year all over the world its work guys so do some and get it in your portfolio.
all the best and check out the WIP section in the next few days, and when I start the thread I will put the link up in here.
all the best and have fun with your art.
Makaratore, sen Siniore Mechi-bilitate!
Idea for Images, Huh? Sorry seniore my brain
got damaged by improperal handling, too many
brown fluid, beer and mixture of herbal teas.
I would suggest, but me so a bit short on creativity
these days. You will get the hang of something new
and interesting, we believe in you. I believe in you.
*watching you from behind the curtains, as he sips his warm ale*
The trouble with 3D is that it doesn't automatically desaturate the colours in perspective.
I remember Tron the first time round - still haven't caught up with the latest version.
LtPlissken - you are forgiven I have severe trouble getting my brain to function these days too, thats mainly down to too many years and too many casks of foaming ale!........ I wouldnt change anything mind you!! (laughs quietly!)
ashess - Dont get mad it was my own choice to help out and as it happens the guy didnt want that kind of help he wanted to work it properly from propper VPs and perspective, I cant fault the guy for that and even applaud him for it. Its good to revisit fundamental principles from time to time (thanks Jeffx99) do it right all the time bad habbits stick but so do good ones. The software is Bryce 5 which a lot of people dont like because of its rather quirky interface, but I love it and can get it to do almost anything I want (within reason).
Black Spot - Hi there Mrs, hope you are well. Yes I know what you mean most 3d packages are great at things that are in your face but dont work at all in distance. For example if you try to desaturate the colours over a distance in Bryce it just looks foggyand dull, which doesnt work at all.
But I do think that 3d has its place in our workflow, it can help you visualise an environment or scene and even allow a fly through which helps, some folks I know of use them to paint over but as I said before "Jeffx99, Arenhaus, Lhune" and many others have convinced me that its better to learn this illustration game from the ground up and not take short cuts until I know better what I am trying to do.
thanks for posting all of you I really appreciate it and all the advice you can give.
A long while ago I my copy of Imagine FX fell on the doormat with a poster in it advertising James Gurneys brilliant book "color & Light" and as I was looking at it I thought I would try and shade up some loomis heads and see if I got the general idea.
Now be warned I have mostly ignored the hair its just the faces I have lit up, although I have scribbled at a few jeads out of curiosity.
Tell me what you think, I will post the poster bit first so you know what i'm doing or trying to do.
ok fire away, this was fun to do by the way and is something to do while the kettle boils!
all the best folks
oh that was a good exercise to do. 1-2 and 2-3 are not that clear, but mostly they all look believable and solid.
hmm, well if you say so...I wont get mad :p
hey! thought id stop by again. faces look nice, but a little hard to crit; espec the split light. it's all such soft tones. mabe a little overexegeration would make it easier. one thing I notice, is the example of that split one has the strongest shadows on the front towards us. such as the tip of the nose and the middle of the upper lip. but yours dont seem to have much shadow there at all. then again, maybe you choose 2 different light sources? yours are mirrored there at least. the example doesnt show it's light sources at all.
bah, not sure any of this is helping, so disregard if you cant do anything with it!
never heard of that 3d program. use blender myself. it's a little quirky too though
Hi there Ashess
Yep I hear what you are saying about the lighting etc but I have to say it was a good thing to try, the faces were not all looking forward there were loads of angles to take into the equation and it wasnt straight forward. It was good and I enjoyed it.
thanks for the comments mate I appreciate it.
You have soaped up the cat's back in a real gently fashion here.
I see the faces terrified by the surprise of the sudden light. Just
like a deer in a headlight. For example I can feel the ol' mans fear there.
He was sipping his ale there in the summer night and he went to take
a leak, then suddenly a big truck turned on the headlights on him.
His urological nerves has broke down momentarily. He is squinting in
pain and his knees are buckled as his vision blurs. You have presented
the feelings of these faces in a very realistic way to us.
Kevin Costner could never done this better, and
Jack Palance would be just more than proud now.
Let's drink something while we observe these
magnificent faces. We have 20 minutes.
I am going to put my website back up and so I need some new and interesting works to get up in there. I think I am going to go for the childrens illustrator angle mainly. Because of my interests in educational multimedia and existing knowledge of how to put kids books together. I also need to put some of the new book images in there as well as publishers are going to want as much information as I can give them on level of finish and development etc.
So with that lot in mind the first set is from the classic three little pigs and the wolf story I am going to try and post all the development stuff in here so that you can tell me at an early stage if something is going horribly wrong, ok!?
The first lot are just some doodles to get shapes for the pigs houses that I liked and wanted to try out.
Basic shape of the stick house
A couple of environment ideas to show a clearing in the forrest and still leave room for the story text, dont forget ther are book illustrations.
The characters themselves as concepts, I am going for the happy and slightly tubby Disney look with clothes I think but am open to suggestions
thanks for looking guys, I appreciate it please feel free to comment on anything as you never know where it will point my mind.
Last edited by Lightship69; April 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 AM.
Ok this set is mainly working the expressions of the characters, becasue in the images I done want the pigs and the wolf just posing, I want them to be acting the roles and selling the story. With this in mind I have looked at how to work the charscters so that they still look like pigs but have a working facial expression and mouth.
more on this story later and now back to the studio !!
Here are some very fast environment studies/ experiments on how the house of sticks fits into its environment, for example do we put it in a clearing or at the edge of a forrest or just on its own in a field? so I am kicking ideas around and trying to come up with something new for the story and so far I dont think this is it!.
Maybe a new Idea would be to use a tree, and either build off a low branch or use the tree itself and make a tree house.... Hmm
Last edited by Lightship69; April 5th, 2012 at 10:53 AM.
Hi guys I thought I wounld post some of the reference sources for this project, I cant really decide which of the thirty or so ideas that I have circling my brain is the best one for me to go for.
I couldnt find anything like a lean-to house / shelter to use and the tree houses looked over done and wouldnt serve the story so I am going with the cabin in the woodland glade thing.
anyway ref pics for forest clearings.
houses in the next post
Ok here are some other folks ideas on what a stick house for a piggy would look like, weird what some folks spend thier time on eh?
ROFL................ sorry but you have to laugh at yourself sometimes.
Ok thats sort of the stuff I have been sifting through and probably the best of the lot, but pickings have been slim. Theres enough there for ideas though so I shall crack on.
Hey, mate. Good to see you're still going strong with the studies. You're improving at a nice, steady pace. Nice concepts you're coming up with too, kid austronaught looks like something one o' my wee cousins would read.
Keep up the good work
That is a great idea! To do illustration for children books and I
totally support it, cause you will find your true self there for sure.
Me, personally, I would go into the porn illustration business, but
you already knew that. Just imagine, in the future, you and I
having our own art houses, you doing children stuff, and I the
porn stuff, and joining together, partnering up. Wouldn't that
be a fantastic idea? We would have clients from all around the world,
half of them children and their caring parents, and half of them some
kinky porn lovers. I think it would be a magnificent journey.
The houses that you did with pencil are great, and I like them,
but remember, those are just some ideas not the finals, cause
for doing buildings and structures, you will just need a 3D software.
I just figured that out from my experience. Well, you can definitely
try to do all that with rulers and pencils, doing the perspective guide
lines, but damn that will take too much time. The same job can be
done in some 3D sketchup software in only 3 or 5 minutes. Plus the
software will figure out the shadows for itself in a second, while with
pencils you would struggle for an hour or more, just to realize that you
are doing something wrong in the end. Either way, it's all about the main
goal, cause if you are doing this for money and business, than your interest
is definitely to do it as fast as you can. But if you do it for your own pleasure
and joy, well then you can do all the stuff with pencils and in a relaxed
fashion. I think that you get what I am trying to say, I overdid a bit here
with this wall of text. To get things shorter, I would just like to mention,
that your pig designs and face expressions are getting better and they
definitely look fun and interesting. Just do not forget to train as often as its possible,
as fresh as its possible. Cause practice does not make perfect. ONLY perfect
practice makes perfect. In the end, I definitely like your reference choices,
and the house designs that the other people did.
Sorry for not visiting earlier, and I want to thank you for your constant
support in my book. Take care and give us some more magic.
Wow you have improved a lot in a year. from your first page to here. Just compare the pig house that's on the first one to this one much more knowledge of perspective.
I really like the houses.
the only crit I have is on the rendered one in post #257. I see that the cast shadow on the floor looks really good, but it looks like there is no cast shadow on the walls of the house, maybe doing the cast shadow a bit darker, or the part with light a bit lighter would help make a clearer distinction between shadow and light on the walls.
Keep up the good work ~!
Hey man, you asked for some feedback on your piggy, would maybe suggest to emphasise a feature on him, atm there isn't anything really standing out on him, other than maybe his human-like legs which looks great! =) Maybe give him more expressive eyes? Happy Easter =)
hey man, some nice improvement going on here, keep it up!
I like the pig expressions. Looks like you have a lot of work to do, so good luck with it all.
Yopu found some nice references and I like your house sketches as well. And the first set of pig expressions. The pig face used in the second set is less funny and playful, a bit stiff, I can't explain this, I think you should just doodle them till the strokes get simple but playful, you do them easy and still great... I hope you have enough time for that I'm looking forward to see what happens in the future
Hi guys thanks for the feedback
LtPlissken - You are a star and an inspiration and Thank the Lords of Creation that I found a joyous kindred spirit and someone I can be as mad as I like with, Gods I need that to blow off some mental steam pressure!! family life can be as tough as hell and so I thank you.
VooDoo Mama - Yes I know what you mean the shading didnt come through very well there did it!? it is there and will come through when i render it up later on. I am going to do a few of these one a sheet and see which one apeals to me, I'll post them for all to see as well.
Kungfoowiz - Thanks man yes I know where you are coming from as well the concept is just a piggy at the moment and i will seperate them out into a carpenter for the stick house, a farmer for the straw house and a bricklayer for the last one. I think I mixed them up there too the straw one comes first doesnt it. Either way they need to be seperate and easily identifiable guys.
Mindwrack - Thanks for the visit matey and keep that book of yours updated too, That photo of yours with the skulls is simply brilliant I cant wait to see more!
Black Spot - Thanks for the support Mrs Spot I appreciate it and yes I know I have a mountain to shift to get this lot into a workable state. But I have got to try and reach for the stars and enjoy a dream or too.
shiNIN - Hi matey thanks for calling in I know what you mean about the stiffness and It comes from the nose, it needs to move and flex more to get the expressions to come across better. Thanks for that matey.
Thanks again to all of you for your points I will look into all of it and make it better. All the very best to all of you
Great work here, keep it up.
I know you're going for a children's work with the 3 Little Pigs, but might I suggest trying to put your own spin on it. Try and mash up the designs for the characters and the houses with something unusual or unexpected? Even when these end up as well done as I suspect they're going to be, you'll need something to set you apart with this popular story. Maybe spend a day just going crazy with yourself and thinking of the craziest stuff you can imagine, and then just draw it. Nobody really needs to see. I should take my own advice more often.