Shamagim : you're on FIRE dude... Seriously, cool it...
Secret Science : despite what people might say, I like the dress-pulling-upyness of it all But maybe that's just me hehe. Diggin' the palette as well.
You guys got a nice team goin' here, good luck !
Hey Sham, just had an idea, what if:
You represent the cups somehow by drawing in containers or basins that the black 'toxins' are flowing into. I'm not sure which variation you decided on, but it might be cool to incorporate that somehow. Maybe make the moon bigger too, so the elements are overlapping-selling the depth a bit better maybe. Just one idea. Anyhow, eager to see where you take it.
zachalicious: thanks brog man, love you tons.
Arish: Thank yas!
Rambozo: It's like you understand me...
'Nutha update. I'll be posting thumbs for the seven of wands here soon. that is a PROH-MUSSS.
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Sham, love the cup sketches. I absolutely love the first and second thumbnails. would love to see a mix of the floor of the middle one, with the dynamic figure of the first one.
I definitely agree with Ryan, especially with the moon... overlapping it would sell depth like no one's business! But fantastic work!!!
Shreya: love the design so far! Love him being so androgynous. it fits his character so well. Can't wait for more!
Ryan: Loving it.. all of it!!! I think you leveled up my friend! (i'd crit you, but ....well, we sit next to each other so you already know everythin' i'd say )
Anyway Here's my thumb update.
I would've kept going but two factors kept me from it.. 1. 3:31 A.M 2. Ryan suggested I do the wheel as a start up in 3d... as I have never done that and it would actually save me time, I'm gonna go and learn some google sketch up and work on the wheel's perspective. ...and guys..I love this challenge, and I love mah team XOXXOOXOXOXO
Hey Ryan, that was a good idea. I was starting to fear that replacing the concept of a recipient might be going to far outside the original concept. It makes much more sense this way since before he could be releasing stuff, but it wasn't clear that he was getting rid of it. A recipient would clearly show that he's leaving it behind.
And tho this might or might not be the step towards the final one, here's a line drawing of it. It's tough to get 8 things going to 8 other things and a guy standing there .
Karla, yup, ellipses= hell. 3d = good, even if its just to get the drawing right .
Still working on this one, it might take some more work before the all that stuff I'm trying to cram into the picture makes sense.
W.I.P for the 8 of cups...I don't know, I'm kinda fond of the initial sketch, not sure how to keep the contrast in the final . I sort of decided to not use the moon as light source after I found out that everything was being backlit, but I kept it as a background thing....hopefully not a huge mistake, I'll hear about it if it is .
Oh my god you guys are all like super fantastic...these designs are out of this world!!!
Iridyse - I love your design of the Fool and the wonderfully blissful and peaceful look on his face as he falls into the abyss! He's gorgeous. The 1st color study of the fool is my favorite also.
SS: I absolutely LOVE this. This skirt lifting is just wonderful, please please keep it. The extra arms make for an amazing effect.
Shama: Just. Stop.
In all seriousness, your designs are so amazing. How do you just pump out sketches, like...you're breathing and sketches appear. I don't get it. The 'botched' lighting doesn't really bother me at all, maybe hide the moon even more to make it less obvious, but the composition, design, and concept of the image is just sooo amazing.
Icon: I love the composition of your image as well, the lighting comp is great so far :> I agree that 3-D would definitely help, the shape wouldn't really be all that difficult to make either.
You guys are definitely being watched, everything in this thread is just so inspirational. Thanks everyone :>
Team Chow III Presents:
Shama - I think what may be missing from the card is interpretation of the card itself. I _definitely_ get that it's an 8 of Cups... but I lack any other details to latch onto except the aspect of "letting go" that you are implying with the release of the ink-fish. Perhaps the composition would pop and imply the "moving on" or "restlessness" or "burnt out" aspects of the card... if you put the cups behind the character? I don't know how easy that would be (depending on how you drew the original composition) but it would certainly implying leaving behind the old and setting off in a new direction. Additionally, I agree with Evui. I think the moon should be less of a focus. Right now all the colors are so close that everything blends. I'm more attracted to the foreground in your color sketch than I ever was with your sepia. :]
But..... damn. Your work is so pretty I just wanna
Icon - I'm eagerly awaiting an update. Not much to say right now, maybe when you have more? :>
Iridyse - I love that Bottom right corner coloration. The warm colors will -really- bring out a lil vivacity on the fool... a wonderful combo of your two original sketches. I definitely get the feeling of reckless abandon! -chuckles- I wanna rush into the card and put my hand under his other foot... Hehe... only complaint? I don't necessarily read "male". Most fool cards are male... don't have to be... but if you want to go for female or even gender neutral, make sure its more obvious when you do the colors.
Science - I never said it before but... your face under her skirts was eff'in brill. Hehe... Love the composition and, well, the skirt-lifting is growing on me. I mean, who doesn't mind a lil skirt-lifting! There was something else I wanted to add but I cannot, for the life of me, remember what it was. If I do, I'll post again.
Keep it up, all. Some BEAUTIFUL, kick-ass work here.
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I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way...
oh god my team is so sexy!
Ryan: Love it! love it! I really can't say how much I love this piece! I really think you've really reached a new height with this one!
Sham: I love this image so much! And I don't mind the monochromatic color scheme, I would just love to see more play on light against dark against light against dark and so on. I think it would add a lot of visual excitement, especially with the possibility of really cool looking shadow shapes! I love everything about this painting though, it's so alluring!
Shreya: Loving the Fool!! Such great lighting! Color comps, I personally am leaning more towards the third one ( or lower left) something about that play on warm colors vs cool colors really gets to me! Can't wait to see more!!
I'll post up more stuff by the end of this delicious CHOW weekend. I'm excited to take a break from all the freelancing and paint away on a beautiful tarot paradise!
Anyway guys just wanted to send my love!! Great work!
WIP update, Thanks you folks for giving our team yer support .
Talvarin, you're right about that, but at this point the only thing I can compromise with is changing the pose a little bit to make it look like he's going to turn around . The reason is because I need(want ) to show the tar fish, the character and the jugs at the same time... I'll look for additional things to add to the concept, changing the position of things might turn to be a huge headache .
Shama, that work is beautiful, but I gotta say, that moon still bothers me. It just has so much texture and pop and I really don't want to get distracted at all from your wonderful fore and middle ground. The detail you put in the tar fish is AMAZING and the whole image is just wonderful. I'm saving that when it's done, for sure. LOVE IT!
Team Chow III Presents:
Shama, I really need to say that evui is right. Without the moon, or with a less obstrusive (smaller/less detailed) one your image would get soooooo much better. Your thumbs on the first page are pure love. Pure concept art, pure originality and pure awesomeness.
Do not detract from that great character.
kind of a small critique, but that last guy gets pretty hard to read in the torso area. my eyes keep trying to push the shadowy areas of the arm drapery on his right arm (viewer let) behind his body. partially because of the value stripping and partially because the line up his right side (viewer left) of his lower body becomes a tangent once we get to the arm drapery- making it appear to be a line showing the edge of his lower body, rather than the bottom of the sleeve.
hope that made sense!
Hey sourgasm, it does make sense...horrible mistake!!
Will fix , thanks a bunch for sniping it out.
Wip update. I changed it quite a bit ( I think ), still a long way to the finish line, and so little time left...And so much to fix
damn Sham, that is good! I need to get my act together. I will be waiting to see finals from all of you. Nice stuff everyone.
Thanks for all the comments guys!
Matias: The full Moon looks muchhhhhhh nicer IMO.
I did a new line drawing for the Fool but there are still some areas that I need to fix so I'll update that in a little while from now. I used the new line drawing for some color tests again( the floaty cloth is attached to the arm band that's currently missing hehe). I'm sorta leaning more towards the one on the right for now. I'm not sure if that's because I have been seeing the left one for so damn long but something about the night scene and him jumping into that luminescent pool just makes it look so much magical. I want to avoid showing the pool/abyss/unknown future that he is leaping into as a negative thing.
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