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I've been testing these landscape paintings recently but i'm still getting nowhere near decent. I'm having problem engaging colors and elemental details like rivers and even buildings. I haven been looking reference because i'm just plain dumb at understanding constructional things and when i look at them, i have no idea how to break them down and start building them from scratch in my paintings. I just can't see how it works... I hope the people here can give some guidiance on what to look out for when constructing those things. Thanks a million.
Last edited by Dim5um; April 22nd, 2007 at 02:36 AM.
Perhaps some of the exercises in my Concept Art 101 thread will help you. (The link is in my sig.)
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o man, those sexy. I like the colors.
Its David Levy's technique (gnomon dvd from speedpainting 2 concept art) you know this is his style and u sould start draw normal things he is great painter and this tricks its not why he is good painter. Try 2 do your own things and seedling concept art 101 is rly great (im learning now same way) i think this could do everybody who saw that dvd.
Hi, thanks for all the post, sorta caught up with work. Thus the late reply.
Seedling: I saw the 101 concept art thread, really interesting stuff. Will give it a try.
laterdays: Glad you like the colors, but there are few some issues on some of the definations in the paintings.
rullax: Yup, I got one of the dvd from David Levy. I think its a great way to learn from such artists especially when you are starting from scratch in landscape painting. i have done landscape paintings before on my own exploration. Taking reference from paintings of other artist or even photo reference got me no where. Everyone's learning curve is different.
Last edited by Dim5um; November 19th, 2008 at 01:25 PM.
Okay let me break it down to you, although you have the dvd, the gnomon dvds are generally not for the novice artist. Some are, other cases they're not for anyone that is starting off. I personally think that you should go back to doing life studies, Painting anything and everything you see. I think that your still kinda missing the point of what Seedling and and rullax are trying to say to you. Painting like Dave will not get your artwork good. You have to start from life. I still think that you will need wealths of improvement. And, I don't think painting like Dave will get you there. I will give you a link to loomis's books that I posted; go through scriboy's link, I think his links are much easier. And, also, what Dave probably meant is that his process will speed your workflow, with using his tools that he has already built, of course his brushes. You solve building designs much faster. Your not at that level where you making good and effective design, and the draftsmanship is not up to what dave is doing with his works. When looking at other paintings and other great works, your supposed to be looking at Composition, Design, Color Theory, Perspective, etc. These are essential to getting your work to the next level. Those are the theories you must study. Your artwork is not gonna develop overnight and doing Vyle's way will not get you there. Studies will get you there. Figures, actual landscapes, actual creatures actual vehicles, weapons etc. will get the juices flowing. Also, learning this way will not be a crutch, as learning through someones dvd and just using his brushes will hinder your growth. Experiment without his brushes. Go traditional. Do pencil studies. Do Marker renderings. Your ability, skill, draftsmanship and understanding of theory, execution of the theory within your. will be things that art directors and others here on conceptart will judge you on. Still do the imaginative stuff, and use the dvd for reference, but also use other means, other tools to get great. Good luck. I hope I have convinced you to explore more and not just rely on one thing to get you where you want to be.
Here is a link to Loomis's books if you do not have them already. Again, go through Sriboy's link: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthr...26#post1301126
Beelow: No worries about the convincing part man, if i didnt want any advice i wont come here. Similarly, if i wasn't interested in rullax's comments i wont ask and quiery bout it. I think I got what you're trying to say. (or probably what everyone is trying to say..hahah) I'll do more studies in my next few posts of works without brush explorations and going back to basics.
k, back to painting...
Ok, heres another one i did and i attached my work process along in hope that you guys can correct me out. I know this really looks amateur and i guess i need to start from somewhere:
Totally fine, Dim5um. Nobody can be a pro at the get-go and I think its great you're working on enviros. It's an extremely useful exercise.
This street scene is quite good, especially for a beginner. The persective is quite strong and framing the man's head with the yellow sign does a very good job of making it a focal point.
The main thing I can think of to make it better is that the materials all look quite uniform. Try to think of how different things may react to light differently. I personally would love to see some reflections in the pavement, as though it had just rained. That area is looking a tad bereft of detail. Adding more very fine detail to the foreground will push the depth more as well.
I just went through the forum looking at most of the comments that have been out. I just realised most of you here are either crazy or nuts. How can you all spot detail mistakes so easily like nobody's business? lolx..
Tully: Hey thanks for the comments, you made my day and i didnt plan to paint the guy there with the yellow billboard. It just happened that it was empty and i got lucky in fixing it. After looking at what you said, i decided to work extra harder and the next time that i engage another painting, i'll ask myself the purpose, the focus, the color, the mood, the environment and everything else the the seniors here are constantly trying to remind the juniors to be careful of when doing stuffs. I still dun understand the portion on pavement reflections ( how the hell do you paint pavements after rains?? lolx...its darn difficult to imagine) and i think partial of what is really lacking is both foundation and experience. Surfing through the forums has gotten me thinking (a little more..im a slow learner) on alot of different things in art literary...i figure i should use my brain more instead of just doing it without sense.
Till then, im going back to my drawing board and i think i need to start looking at the world from a software perspective.