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HI, this is the third speed paitning i ever did, i guess i can do a better job if i spend a week copying the reference but speedpaintings are different, and i want to get better at it, so, if you can could you give me some advice on how to approach it, please? thanks.
2 hours more or less.
if u use photoshop please stop using the spray tool. if ur using Corel painter, please stop using add grain -__- and this is whatsoever not a speedpaint, the only speed is that its fast and a bit sloppy made. put more effort Speed paint doesnt always mean "do it as fast as you can to come up with a sloppy result.." think about it
Hey man, the first thing that strikes me is that there are no hard edges in the drawing, everything is too soft. Next time you do one of these, try doing parts of it with a normal hard and round brush with variable size. You might want to take down the opacity to like 60-80%. Also when you do that, try and nail the forms and colors with as few brushstrokes as possible. That makes you reflect a little more on what it is you are doing (having problems with that myself). Now do another one and let's see some definition! =)
Thanks glogg, ill do just that now
Doomgriever, i really cant put my finger on where do i need to put my effort, maybe you can explain more?, oh and i used a textured brush thats why i got that spray effect, so i changed that in this one, 1:30 mins more or less, thank you.
30 mins, yuck, but i think i am getting it. Im having trouble with the floor and the sky, i think its easier for me to see things as flat planes with color patterns... thats bad i guess, how to fix it?... practice practice practice?
Ok, i really dont know how much it took me to do this, maybe 1hour or so, i had to do some work bringing and carrying building materials (sand and the like ). So, i think im getting better, i think i am understaind what you doomgriever said, i should not just scribble collors here and there but i must think on the shapes of the trees, the shape of the shadows the shapes of the silouetes more and plan my strokes well, and values and contrast is so important as i have readed in other tutorials, i think that 4 or more planes suggest depth and that far away planes should blend with the horizon more, in a relationship of 2 the closest,3,5,8 the fartest, maybe, with closes having more details and colors.
The site of Goro fujita really helped me, i recommend it for everyone with problems like me http://www.area-56.de/_area56_data/tutorials.html
Critiques on what should i get better next time are highly appreciated, thanks.
2 hours, maybe more. Still looking for some opinions, thanks.
Nice thread you got here.
May I ask, are you using a tablet? If so, set your brush opacity setting to pen pressure. If you use opacity then it will be much easier to sketch in your sky without having it in blocks of colour. Looks like you are getting the values right, but because the colours aren't blended you are getting an oversaturated look. If not, try setting your opacity of your brushes to 50 or so percent instead.
A good test for me is to look at the screen by the side of your painting and if it seems as though it could be a photograph out the corner of your eye then you are on the right track, and I get that with your sketches.
You hit the nail on the head earlier though...pracrtice practice practice.
Keep it up!
Thanks a lot space-sprayer, i used a lower opacity brush for this one, and as you said it turned out to look better, thanks!, and keep advicing me if you can, i like your speedpaints .
This one was a lot easier, i just had to paint the background (made it a couple of times actually, its was the hardest) and then draw the trees in one color .
Less than an hour (i should use a chronometer...).
Ok, i admit i didnt pay much attention on the study of clouds and water, thats why they ended beign very sloppy, but i think i am getting better and values and colors... and who knows what else.
Advice is appreciated, thanks.
Many, many hours, mostly spent looking, not painting.
Im still trying to get it, i tried to use different barontieris brushes now, really nice effects, but im still trying to learn how to paint in this way, if you can please advice me.
Ref. (BIG) http://www.foodconspiracy.org/upload...0landscape.jpg
1 or 2 or 3 hours.
Showing grat improvement. Keep it up.
I don't know if you do this but just a reminder. You propably should not PICK colors from the ref. photos with the eyedropper etc. Just so you learn to see the colors by your self.
Thanks a lot for your support Jazam , and yes i allready try to just figure out the colors by myself.
Very nice speed paintings. Is nice how you include textures in them in such a short time. The last one is a big improvement over the first, but I think that too much detail kinda kill it since it makes the scene look "too busy". Just a thought, keep it up man
I'd like to suggest you study the impressionists painters.
They are the masters of the impression, they make you feel that something is there where is just a simple shape and the right color.
I'm not saying that impressionists was speedpainters!! They just knew how make you belive that it's a tree or something with just one stroke.
This is a monet called "impression sunrise":
Looking carefully to this bigger version you'll see how much brush economic he was to define his sillhouetes.
Thanks for the comment armaldon, i think you are right , its a good observation that that image looks to busy, i tried to add less little dots here, its think its much less busy but with texture and many colors, what you think?.
Thanks thiagocosta, thats a good advice too, you know that i was too thinking that speedpaint is like impresionists, in fact i dont know what the differences are, but thanks, im studying them right now.
Heres my latest image, i think i am improving a lot, i still have a long way to go of course, and im still looking for further advice, thank youu!.
less than 1 hours.
Still learning, any advice is really appreciated.
1 hour maybe.
you improved a lot.
Last one is very good... maybe if you add more yelows inside the greens is better, take off a bit of blue... Just try with every channel in the color curves.
For the blue lake you did the only crit I have is to the water. The colors are fine but you didn't represented the wave repetition you see in the photo.
Of course that's a good image also, but just not too close to the reference as is this last one.
keep going man.
Ps: The soft brushs I dont like too but it's more personal
now THATs much more of speed painting i didnt even have time to explain what u should focus on befor u got it all wrapped in a box and ready to go well i congrat u ^_^ i think most of them are beautiful
That last one, great. In such a short time youve improved much.
One thing bothers me though, the reflection of the sky... not exactly what we're seening in the sky I mean look at the sky, its cloudy and pretty white, big non defined clouds. Your reflection on the other hand has very defined clouds and high contrast between the white clouds and blue sky. Still this is not very important just noticed.
one thing that i suggest you do is use custom brushes. the round hard brush is great but sometimes to get an element done quick some speedpainters use custom brushes. for example: the maple leaf brush in photoshop is a quick way to create leaves on a tree.
Thanks a lot everyone for your encouragement
I did this yesterday, and i cant find the ref., 1 to 2 hours. I tried to make a custom brush, wich turned out to be a pain to use, i think its better to use one of those textured brushed more, i dont recommend flatening the normal round brush and using scattering, the result is as seen here, not very good.
Lets see what i can do today.
um well it looks nice and all, but the people doesnt seem to fit in to the picture. and u need to focus on making the shapes better.. else its good
Doomgriever, i agree, is just that i was so frustrated and angry that i did them in a sloppy way (i painted them angry too), it was so hard to do that one with that ugly brush...
Oh and what do you recommend on getting the shapes right?, i usually start by doing the shape of the planes, and then i go adding the shadows, the halftones, then the lights and then hightligts, i never seem to get them right though.
more than 2 hours. i did a little experimentation on modifing brushes now, turned out better than the last one. critiques and more advice really appreciated.
I have a question for whoever can answer it, i think that i wont be able to speedpaint better until i study trees, clouds, rocks and mountains, folliage, the sky, fog, plants, because i have never really studied all those things, im just copying photos and they dont turn out really well, i think i have been training my hability to see colors and training my eye to measure, i have also learned to work with speed rather than spending days working on a piece like i used to, im happy with those improvements, but i think i should stay away from painting and practice drawing, what do you think?, maybe i should study trees and mountains before trying to copy a landscape ever again, i mean, im having much difficulty on getting the shapes, the depth, the colors, values, what should i do?, what do you think are my weaknesess?, and im asking this because i was working today with another speedpainting and im getting so frustrated and angry that i am torturing myself with all this speedpaintings, so what should i do next to get better?.
According to David Levy. (who is a master speed painter and conceptual artist) you can get his DVD from thegnomonworkshop.com
He says that you need to have a good understanding of light and composition. He also uses custum brushes to block in shapes and then creates form out of that shape. Custom brushes are essential to speed painting. they are not easy to master or even be good at it. Custom brushes need getting used to, David Levy uses cutom brushes and usually lets them go free and then sees shape that the brushes make and then like magic he makes a great scene. But you do need an understanding of Composition, and Light and shadow.
check out the sample video on thegnomonworkshop.com and see what i mean. Speed painting doesnt mean to make something quick. it means to create a painting using shapes, shadow, some texture, but there isnt any detail there. take your time. speed will come later.
Thanks for the advice, i visited the site and saw those nice video samples, myabe ill get one of those videos but i think that i should go back to basics, maybe im trying to do something beyond my abilities, so ill leave speedpaintings for a while and ill start drawing and sketching, ill open a sketchook i think.
Thanks a lot for your support man, i really appreciate it, ill let this thread die now, thanks everyone!.