hey there! great to see the different steps, shows that you don't concentrate too much on details too early, which is really good. i like those charcoal sketches a lot, you seem very confident with this material, so keep pushing it. i haven't worked much with charcoal, but one thing i noticed in my own work and maybe in yours, too, is the use of lines instead of planes. i try to think more in areas than in outlines. helped me a lot - maybe it's useful for you, too. if not, feel free to forget it. hope to see more soon, take care
wow. Great to see how you are doing those steps! charcoal is one of the best medium's to draw with!! and you are really confident with it . push yourself even further! .
but why is your scanned picture pink and the photo pictures yellow?
stine: thanks I try not to think of the anything except what I am seeing when using a ref and (haven't happened yet) from life, otherwise I end up sketching what I know instead of what I see. If I am sketching from the mind, then I use the planes and all that good stuff because I have nothing to see
oma: thanks as for the image colors, I don't use the flash on the camera and the only light is the light I use on my desk which isn't all that bright so the images have a little bit of a yellow tint in them.
An unfinished sketch that I was attempting for the Open Figure Drawing Workshop thread. Noticed that it had some proportional errors and also it looks more like Gillian Anderson than the painting that I was trying to sketch
Dile: thanks the white is done with white charcoal. The same effect can also be achieved with color pencil, pastel, or chalk.
didn't do anything today except this, experimenting with chalk pastel
I've never read anyone's thread in it's entirety until i came across yours. Your progression from your first post to your latest is inspiring. I've been in a slump for a few months and have had no motivation until i saw your work. I look forward to starting a sketchbook of my own and hope to share it with you and the rest of the CA members. Please keep posting and keepi inspiring others with your progress.
betterdayz: thanks will be looking forward to seeing your work. Speaking of motivation, I feel like I am sliding into a slump, haven't the urge to do any art of late and is almost a struggle to pick up the pencil. Hope this doesn't last too long
i like the last update a lot.It just screams "classic" hehehe
unfortunately there is some problem in her right eye...flipping the picture once in a while should help you spot these flaws.You're improving a lot with the rendering and color tho...when will you show us a superhero rendered like one of your portraits?
i like that http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...1&d=1166329433 one more than you last one?
don't know why. last one maybe to much white in it...
but still looks very very nice :0.
hope to see more of you charcoal stuff that rocks .
TheGnoll: thanks yah I noticed the eye after I uploaded it. The sketch with this post is an experiment that sort of like a what you asking
oma: thanks yah that last one does have too much white in it. Was trying to lighten the color below, guess I over did it
a quick pen sketch to try to get my motivation pumping and an pastel experiment with the sketch.
Hi OldNoobie Some nice progress and some wonderful subtle work in the colored charcoals. Post #442, very nice. Yeah, I also participated in OFDW and learned alot about edges and how it affects space. The value is to begin to see what the master painter was thinking. I LOVE this one in post #455! As was said before this drawing definately has the nice and classic feel in the style you have. In any case, what I see is your renderings are getting more sensitive, more variation in pressure and strokes. Transitions are more considered and softer. I think every attempt and study gives something invaluable, regardless of the stage it was left in. The second attempt, I see that you captured the luminosity in her eyes. there is depth and life in them. Your last posted drawing is quite beautiful. There is a sense of solid structure underneath.
Don't be discouraged......young faces are not easy to draw and render, there is a need to represent a solid structure, yet can't show to much explanation of form because one over done stroke and it changes or even ages the individual. What you have is most well done, I think. The thing with capturing a likeness is to have an ideal and proportioned face, generic, to start with and from this reference, adjust the features to fit the individual. Does take a little practice, but it can become second nature as an evaluation before any portrait attempt, with time.
Keep going. Take this from someone had to earn back over the course of 3 years the level once known; The most discourageing moments are the ones you learn from the most.
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indeed, if we don't had that previous picture we all would say > wow beautifull.
so it's a great drawing.
but if you compare it with the ref it's you will see your failures > you will learn from it > trail and error > progress for sure!!!
so just keep drawing and practicing.
just, keep that in mind > you will learn from it!
so it's allway's great.
I'm with Gnoll and Oma and I quote because they had said exactly what I want to said
Originally Posted by TheGnollOriginally Posted by oma
lee you have improved, the last one is stunning!
would you mind sharing the ref, i would gladly paint over the proporions if its killing you, but it looks pretty accurate.
the only thing i can crit is the background is pretty harsh, just needsa to be a bit smoother I reckon.]
nice to see some drawings from life they please me!
Man, beautiful studies! I'd say be a little more careful in observing what you're drawing though, and it looks like you could ease up on the dark outlines on some of your face studies. Beautiful work, keep it up!
great portrait, lee! although i have to say that i like the unfinished first steps even more than the finished one - leaving the hair in a rough state lets one just focus more on the facial features, i guess. anyway, the final result is awesome, too. it is possible for you to get your hands on hogarth? because he explains the shift of proportions due to different ages - it helped me a lot, because whenever i drew kids, they looked quite older than my reference, because i was so used to drawing adult proportions. reminds me that i need to practise that again...
i think you pretty much nailed it, except for the chin/jaw area. but i really like how you "sculpted" the mouth. good job! so, happy holidays!
Sepulverture: thanks the dark outlines are a habit I found hard to break. For some reason, I over define the contours before rendering.
stine: thanks I have always had a problem sketching teens and young children. Most of the problem I think stems from being used to sketching adults. I prefer loomis which I do have a copy of that explains the differences between adults, young children and babies. I should do more studies of young children for practice.
lefran: thanks I forgot to soften that shadow under the chin after I tried to adjust the chin and jaw, which by that time I was quite frustrated with the whole thing because I couldn't get a resemblance
Anyhow, a little scribble and an experiment with conte pastel pencils
Hey Oldnoobie. Getting much better at those portraits! You're starting to nail the individual features, the only thing lacking is the proportions. Measure as much as you need to! Big angles, small angles, use one thing (such as the eye) to measure everything else. Take a really long time and nail those proportions instead of going into value. Keep working on it, you're doing great
hey I blinked and missed all this work! Great work with all your updates. Especially this one: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...1&d=1164519012
Very nice work. Keep it all coming!
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on the portrait with the ref you posted, its pretty much spot on excert for the neck, you made it far too big.
There are some tiny mistakes but nothing too obvious, and you did a great job on the render
the chair is good, although the highlights are a bit harsh.
Keep up the good work, and huuge improvement
wow at your 478 post!
nice lose line's in your bridgeman study's!