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Lovin' da updates! That coffee machine is AWESHOME! Keep doin' those life studies cuz they're really going to help you when you start seein things come alive in your imagination works. Some figure work and anatomy work would really help. Keep rockin' this thread. I love how you're puttin' yourself out here by updatin' often. Great work, man.
ZebsFree Thanks for the comments man, you really help keep me goin'! I'm trying to get more done but... Well... I don't have any good excuses.
I finally got this piece done, and I gotta' say, it's good to have it over with. A lot of things scared me about this project, but I feel like I pushed myself in the right direction, and pulled off some things I wasn't sure I was really capable of...
Good piece KC, some of your tone conflicts with the way the shadows are cast though. I love the way you've got a large amount of people interacting, it's hard to keep them all on the same scale, nice job. I really like the ground, such an enviromental artist thing, he he.
Keep it up!
that last one's pretty t-zight
hey about the disembodiment of the eyes and brows if you think about the head in planesthen the sockets come a little easier and just draw the skull as much as you can.
penningtonThanks man. I was checking out your SB today, and I totally see what you mean about the eye sockits. Just a little more... something, and it adds a lot to the face.
OrozcOGlad you liked it.
BadgerTone? Shadows? Conflicts? ...Yeah, I tried to keep everything consistent, but I was working from like six photographs, so that made it tough. I was pretty happy with the way the ground came out too. I was looking at Dave Sim's work on Cerebus, and Berni Wrightson a lot when I was working on this. I don't think I would have been able to pull it off with out them.
Constantly learning and building, you know?
Okay! On to this weeks dump! I increased the size of the images a little bit, to make them a little easier to see. I had them smaller, so they could be viewed side by side, but most of the computers that I've seen them on, they displayed one over the other anyway. What do you guys think?
This first page is partly a repeat from last week, but I added some stuff to it. It's pretty crummy, but there's some worth to it, I guess. Trying to find values in ink.
This one I started at work. I was trying to put him in an environment, but couldn't get it to work out. I "finished" it at home while I was watching a tape of Battlestar Galactica. I was trying to get some texture to his skin like Edward James Olmos has. Didn't really work out, but it was a nice try. I was also thinking about some of the stuff that N8VanDyke does.
Fun with dip pens! I was practicing dip pen tech on one of my cartoon characters. I kind of figgured that it would be easier to loosen up, and just do the work if I hadn't expended a lot of energy on a base drawing.
Just a doodle drawing... I was experimenting with value and texture. I think I need to work on some more dynamic poses... This stuff is good (I think) but not always interesting.
This last drawing is an armoured airship concept that I'm working on lately... My idea for it is sort of a monitor & merrimac of the sky. One of the ideas for it is I want it to have a rail gun, but I'm having trouble working that out.
Do you guys think my posts are too big? Too talky? Too infrequent? I guess it just seems like I'm not getting that many comments... Anyway, thanks for dropping in, and I'll see (well okay, I won't see you... I guess I should say I'll read) you later!
Yo! Lovin' your updates, King. That finished illustration turned out really nice! You really pulled that one out great, man! Give us s'more! I'm guessin' you used some reference for some of that? The batch of doodles is nice too. Keep thinking about the planes. Things are still seeming flat to me. Even when you are thinking of things in the third dimension we're still getting the wrong ones. For example the nose shouldn't turn up like that. It comes out more, etc. Just look at some of the other planar studies. Simplify the shapes more. Keep thinking about cross sections and stuff too. You'll get there. Watch your hatching too. You should hatch with the contour of the form into the receding areas. I hope some of this helps! I'll be lookin' for your next one! You gonna go to the ConceptArt.org workshop in Montreal??
ZebsFreeThanks for the good words man. Yeah, I was working from around six reference photos on that new piece... I think they came together pretty good. I think when I look in the mirror, a lot of the time my head is tilted slightly back, so it looks like noses are tilted up like that. It's not much of an excuse, but there it is... Anyway, I know they look off and I'll try to work on that. It's hard to keep everything in mind, especially when you're trying to break so many years of bad habits. I wish there was a "patch" for bad art...
PenningtonThanks man, I'm glad you liked 'em! I definately plan on doing more work on them, so I don't see any reason why you won't see the finished ones. Thanks for stopping in!
Okay, guys. Here's some of the WIP's for this weeks CHOW... I figured it was time to get off my backside, and actually participate. Unfortunately, I'm very slow, so I'm afraid I might miss the deadline. Still, I think that some work is better than no work... right? The first few are my sketches, and the last one is my WIP. I'm a little further along than that now...
The airships are awesome designs, keep up the good work. Haiti looks good, and the only criticism I feel is necessary is to bring up the left shoulder of the night elf, her left shoulder anyway. the pose feels more correct in the sketch with the shoulder up and back a little bit.I like the nurse, she is lively and you picked up the more cartoony aspect with the foreshortening which works well with the pose and her face. She makes me think she hits the bottle, probably mixes her drinks in pepsi bottles so no one knows. Drawing with sharpies is fun, I have a whole sketchbook from my first drawing classes with sharpie drawings, the bigger the paper the better though. Keep it up!
yeah i think you should try to make the smiley a part of your name or something. i don't know what the Chow is this time but it looks pretty good. the girl's tilted a little too much. you could just straighten the shoulders a little and it'd read better i think. really like the wall paper, it's lovely. hahaha don't be embarassed i like that word. specially for girls.
MichelleThanks for the comments... Ha-Ha! She hits the bottle! That's great... I'll have to tell my mother-in-law that one! Drunk nurses are funny... at least if they're not taking care of you. Sharpies are great for rough layouts. They're fast, and the fact that you can do nothing at all about bad marks makes them kind of liberating. Looking forward to next week...
PenningtonThanks man! Unfortunately, I finished the CHOW piece before I got back to read any comments, but I think it worked out okay...
Oh yeah, the topic was fat, greasy, 35-year old gamer who lives in his parents basement and whose WOW character is a sexy night elf.
Okay, here's the finished piece...
Cool to see all the steps that led to this illustration, nice proccess work. The guy in front looks nice, only his knee is bothering me. Foreshortening a leg at that angle can be really tough. I would say since it's not really essential information you could darken it down and make it less important. Also the anatomy of the character behind him is a tad wonky, having the guy cast a shadow would help identify where the other caracter is and what's going on with the pose. Love the guy's hand! Love all the detail too. Keep it up!
hey wow i really like this one! it's one of the better ones. i checked out the chow thread. great job! so much detail.
Andy P Hey! Thanks for stopping in! The knee was one of the last things I did, and so I was in a really big hurry. That is a good suggestion though, and I'll definately keep it in mind for next time! Man... I didn't even think about a cast shadow on the night elf! That was just retarded of me, and you're totally right, it would have made her a lot better, and given her more presence. I was just in too much of a hurry when I was finishing this thing up... Yeah, I was really happy with that hand too. Unfortunately, they're kind of hit and miss, but they are getting better. Thanks for the comments!
Pennington Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it!
Okay, in spite of having worked my backside off (it came back) on the CHOW project this week, I feel like I was pretty lazy. I have a lowly dump of two images to show you all. I figure it's time to (past time really) buckle down, and do some studying. I'm getting better all the time, but study can only help, right? So... I'm working on Burne Hogarth, since I already have some of his books, and he's good at what he does. One of the things he had to say in his intro really hit me, and is a good thing to keep in mind...
"To behave creatively in art means behavior with skill; and skill comes from discipline, not derangement."
I need to work on my discipline... among other things.
good studies! i need to do some bone studies. i like all the notes. the 3/4 views facing (our) right are a little out of persective. thanks for the compliments and stuff and the tips for trees.
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KC you are on a role!
Cool work, nice work on composition leading to the CHoW! and i love your attention to detail.
Cool to see you working on the essentials, form is really important, especially in enviroments, cause they are basically boxes, pyramids and cylinders stacked on each other.
Keep on that path!! it's the right one.
pennington Thanks for stopping in! Yeah, writing the notes helps me (hopefully) learn it better, and gives me a quick reference for later. I hope it helps, theres just sooo much that I feel like I have to relearn (or learn in the first place), and I'm quite a ways from where I want to be yet...
Badger Thanks for the encouragement! Sometimes that helps more than critique (or at least as much as). Glad you liked the CHOW stuff, I plan on doing it again either next week or the week after. It really took it out of me this time... I'm just so out of shape...
I dug these up out of the archives for your viewing enjoyment... HA-HA! ...Um, I did three of these about six years ago for my senior show in college. Since I was a printmaking major, I decided to go all old school, and print my posters by hand... One for each major technique, and all following the theme of most of my work in school. The intaglio poster sucked, and I don't think I even have a copy of it anymore, so I went ahead and threw in an example of my etching work as well.
Take care and be good.
cool stuff. i like the style. i tried to make the smiley diff but i couldn't get it transparent all the way.
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PenningtonThanks man. It's old, and I blame all that stuff (okay, not totally, but partly) for my not being able to draw realisticly now. I enjoyed doing it though, and learned some stuff in the process... So I guess there's that.
I was going to post an actual update today, but for some reason my scanner isn't cooperating with me. I'll try to scan stuff again tonight, and maybe post it tomorrow.
Hey guys! Sorry, my scanner is still not working... I don't know what's wrong with it, but if it keeps this up the main reason it won't work is that it's in a million (okay, that's an exaggeration, my frustration does have limits, but it'll be a lot) pieces, and in the dumpster !
At any rate... I'm working on some alternitives, just in case, and will update as soon as I'm able.
Thanks for bearing with me!
bummer, i hope you get things sorted out soon! thanks a lot for your critiques and stuff. l8
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Hey guys, still nothing. I think it's the lamp on my scanner that's the issue, but I'm not sure. Basically, when I scan, it does this diagonal pattern of random (at least there doesn't seem to be any relation to what's actually being scanned) colors. Anybody have any ideas? Maybe I'll scan something, and post it, so you all can see what I mean.
In the meantime... We have a new laptop on order, and we got some free stuff with it (one thing being a combo printer/scanner) so between that and my camera, I should be able to get some stuff back up soon.
k well hurry up! i wanna see some more of your sketches pronto!
geez king coyote----
way to pull this off! That building in the background has such a gorgeous framing effect on the composition and the lines in the sky look so nice! I could totally see this being in some nice tourism brochure. Way to push yourself! Hell yeah! I would give you a big pat on the back if i saw you. That's what it's all about, ya know? (pushing yourself, errrrr.. not back-patting... :-P )
ooh YOU GOT printmaking work from college--> TIGHT! would love to see more if you get a chance to scan any of it... also you could PM me the link if you have the goodies in a website or sumpthin. Printmaking have i loved... this stuff is really, really tight!
oh and It takes BIG BALLS to drop a pen and ink drawing on one of the contests here, what with everyone dropping their pretty paints! cheers on this one, delightful composition and excellent development process! I really wish you had asked my permission though before you drew my portrait.
Seriously, you should consider getting another computer--> i was stuck on OS 8.1 for a couple of years and then started upgrading the Gossamer Blossomer heavily... OSX has been a small challenge to get used to, but nowadays when i go back to my G3 (the "Gossamer BLossomer" i refer to above) i always hold my cursor down at the bottom of the screen and wait for the dock to pop up.. which never happens. The new tiger operating system is extremely stable... I've only had 2 or 3 crashes on the powerbook since i got it. Ok. apple commercial over. :-)
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pennington hey man, I'm working on it... Hopefully by the end of the week I'll have something new to show. If not something new, then I'll at least show something old... It's tiring doing stuff, and not being able to talk about it. It really starts to seem pointless after awhile. Living in a vacuum sucks!
guggenmaneuverHey, thanks for visiting man! It's always nice to hear from the citidel of doom! I thought is was about back pats! Dang it... well I guess I'll have to start pushing myself more, and get rid of my automated back patter! I'll dig up some more prints to show, I have a ton of them since that's mostly what I did for almost three years! Maybe this summer I'll actually get off my back side and do some new ones too! The new Mac is a bone of contention between me and my wife... She sees the need, but can't accept the means. Hopefully in the next year or so...
Hey kids! I still don't have a scanner, so there's nothing new or anything, but as promised I dug up some older scans to show. In a way, this is kinda' nice, because it gives me a chance to show you where I'm coming from before I started posting all the garbage from the present.
I promise, as soon as I am able, there will be new stuff... It's not that I haven't been working or anything, you know?
So... Here it all is.
1)This first one is a screen print I did waaay back when I was in college. I was experimenting with transparent inks (basically I just added a crapload of extender base to the ink... Made it very transparent) and rather liked the way the overlays worked out. Unfortunately, this was one of the last things I did before I graduated, so I didn't really have an oppourtunity to take the idea any further. Sorry for the crappy picture BTW, I took it on my digital camera under less than optimum circumstances
2) This second one is a background drawing I did in Illustrator last summer. I was planning on eventually doing a Flash cartoon with the Volknarr Lord of the Underworld character, but so far this is as far as I've gotten...
3)An autobiographical comic I was working on last summer. I meant to do more on it, but kind of moved on to other things... Maybe I'll get back to it someday.
4)The second installment of the comic...
nice! i really like the atmosphere of the autobiographical comic. can't wait to see what you've been working on.
Comic is cool man, nice attention to detail on the enviromental details.
this is really good, because you've used higher contrast than the others. Light really is that high contrast, have a look at the buildings around you in harsh sunlight.
On your comic i'm thinking continue that hatching on the people in some way, it's coolness attracts attention off the figures.
Get that scanner fixed!
Pennington Thanks man! It's always good to hear from you.
Badger Thanks for the comments man. On the hatching, I was originally thinking that the difference between the colors of the inks would be enough. It was my initial intention that the character should stand out from this stark black and white background... You're totally right though, I let my fear of the complexities of the human form get in the way of actually developing my skills... and I agree, the backgrounds do rock in comparison. I'll keep that in mind for next time, I have a couple of new ideas, and hopefully I can make time to work them out in the near future.
Okay... The scanner situation is still not resolved, but it will be tonite, so tomorrow (Friday at the latest) there will be new updates for all! YAY!
On top of that, I also recently got a Wacom tablet, so there should be some crappy digital drawings for you all to make fun of me for too. The news just keeps getting better and better innit?
Okay, since I don't have any actual images to show you today, I'll stop wasting your time, and get outta here. It's my day off, and I really should be home drawing my ass off instead of at the library talking at you guys anyway.
Take care and be good.