Okay, I've been meaning to do this for a while now, and I kind of figured it's time to get my stuff together and just do it. I've been wanting to post more in other peoples sketch books and wotnot, but felt that my posts would carry a little more (or less... I guess) weight If you all could see what I'm up to too. Anyway, here's my first dump, and I'll probably update weekly, because I don't have internet at home, and it's kind of a pain in the backside to go to the library everyday. Also, for the next week or two, I'm hosting on photobucket, so sorry if all you see is the red X's. I'll get on a proper host before too long.
and some random older sketches and a WIP...
That's it for now...
Last edited by kingcoyote; January 5th, 2009 at 06:29 PM.
Nice start to your sketchbook, man. Glad to see you're gettin' in on the action. If you're serious about the sketchbook threads people will really help and give great feedback and crits on your work. If you follow the advice, you're sure to develop and get better and better. I know for me personally I've really found myself improving a great deal over the course of my time here at CA.org. It's a wonderful community of amazing artists whom we can all learn a ton from. Keep posting!! I want to see more! That elephant one seems to be the strongest. I like how your working on basic forms are creating something in perspective. Keep at it!
The main crit I have is for you to do more anatomy studies and works from life. It helps a lot. See ya, man.
ZebszFree hey, Thank's for the comments, man. The elephant is really the closest to a finished piece out of this bunch, the rest is just... well... sketches from the ole sketchbook.
You're totally right about needing to work on more anatomy, and life drawing in general and specific... It seems like I take one step forward, and one step back, you know? For each thing that I learn, there's one more thing I need to learn (or relearn). Without a balance of life drawing, and drawing from the mind, I don't think that enough progress can be made in a positive direction. With too much life drawing, conceptual skills get weak. With too much conceptual drawing, observational skills suffer. It can get really frustrating if we're not careful.
I'll have a new dump in a couple of days... It's kind of intimidating, because I feel like everything I do has to be a high quality... If everything was already perfect, though, I guess there wouldn't be as much point because there would be no need to improve... right? Anyway, keep the comments coming folks!
Nice to see your stuff online man!
hey man, i can see you've got some really great conceptual ideas! that spidery goth girl is awesome!
i have to say, i think a focus on life drawing and anatomy studies should become a bit more of a focus for you, ZebzFee is right it will help A LOT, but i'm sure you already know that
you've got some good stuff going on, keep it up!
lovely stuff, you have this 'storybook' feeling over your art! lovely !
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Hey guys, it's time for another update... but first for some replies.
DruHey man, good to hear from you! Drop in any time... I hope I improve as much this year as I did last.
KronosThank's for the props man. You're absolutely right, I do need to work more from life. I've noticed thet when I work from life alot, the stuff from my head benifits greatly, but when I slack off in the life drawing department, everything else goes to heck with it... At any rate, I'm making it one of my resolutions to do more drawing from life in the new year.
Do you guys think that people will get pissed if they notice that you're drawing them in public? I don't think so... but I have trouble doing it because I don't want to deal with that.
hurricaneThanks! It's funny how your obvious strengths seem to always be the things that you most want to leave behind... That might seem like I'm dogging myself, but there's more that I want to do than what I am doing.
At any rate, here's this weeks stuff... some of it I'm pretty happy with. Parts of each of them really, but overall it feels like it's been a weak week for me.
These first two are just doodle pages... This is what happens when I have no purpose to my work. Interestingly though, I'm pretty happy with what's going on here. There's just not much point to it beyond doing something.
A couple of unfinished life drawings. The first one is the snack bar at work. I worked on it on my lunch break, but then had to go back to work. The other is my brother and his girlfriend on Christmas morning... I don't know why I didn't finish it... I had other things to do I guess.
Okay, this last one is just bad. The main point was the Hatian woman on the left, but she just looks like a blob, I just don't know how to do "black" skin... Ah, but the doodles were a little satisfying.
See you next week!
Hey guys... It's been a kinda weak week, I really didn't get much done I'm ashamed to say. I blame that partly on the holidays, and partly on the fact that I have other things that I should be doing (by doing I mean drawing), and since I'm putting that off, for some reason I'm putting everything else off too. Sorry.
I'm still on photobucket, so hopefully my pictures don't crap out on me before I get them transferred to a real host. If they do, then please just bear with me.
So... here's the dump for this week.
The first page is the beginning of a "life" drawing that I was working on, on my lunch break the other day. Unfortunately, everybody at the table got up, and the snack bar closed before I could get much done... So I did the drawing of the kid on the edge of the page. The second page, I'm a little happier with. The robot is a good start on something, I think it needs a lot of work yet, but the idea shows promise. I was also trying for a shaft of lighe to his left, it didn't really work out, but I appreciate the effort. In the corner is a drawing of my wife that I did at dinner while we were waiting for our food. She didn't stay very still, because she was talking to her family... It's hard to do a good portrait when your subject won't stay still.
...and just for kicks. I took these pictures the other day of some miniatures that I painted, and figured that maybe I'd throw them in with this sketch dump so you'd at least have something nice to look at!
I'm trying to get more observational drawings in as well as other stuff, but I still don't feel like I've regained my focus. I promise this stuff will get better, but I think this is a good starting point.
hey man, goin' good
i like the start of the fat guy at the table, its a pitty the he buggered off.... the robot's rea;;y cool too, you should try taking it further as an idea. the one of your brother is nice, but it would be good to see you spend some more time on a drawing, getting it the the next level of completion....
your characters are fun, i really like the shapes that make them up and the curvyness they have....might be interesting to put them in a more dynamic pose....
anywayz, keep up the great work, and do some more drawing from like/anatomy studies
lol, the warhammer stuff is nice too.....
Originally Posted by kingcoyote
I think we both will. Art, and development of one's skills at it, comes in surges and peaks throughout life, and I don't know about you, but I am beginning to feel kinda creative again.
Hey Kingcoyote just thought I'd stick my head in and say hi. Looking good man. I've seen a lot of these already but your new stuff is looking solid. Last year was a good year over all for you and it's good to see you working again.
Sup Druchii? Long time no see.
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I am feeling a sketch jam coming on this month!
Hey there, thought i'd drop by!
Sweet stuff, this is forking A class.
Good too see you are drawing a lot. It's the way too go, once you start you just keep going. Also good to find other people around who you can draw with and chat about cool inspiring sheit.
Your figures are stronger than your enviro's. For inspiration, and as you are into GW, have a look at necromunda and inquisitor, if you have those books, some sweet illustration.
Got a lot of style here, which is cool, much more unique than a lot of the stuff floating round here.
Values look sorted, but then if you've been painting figs then it really helps with that, except took me a while to get too grips with cast shadows.
Fave printing tech? i'm loving a bit of etching recently.
Work on form and finishing some designs
Great work, greater than my avoidance of actually swearing.
I'll be back soon too check up on you mister!
Hey, man! Sorry I haven't stopped by in some time. This thread is coming along great! Just don't stop updating! The biggest thing I like is that you're starting to work from life more which is great. Really try to focus on what you're seeing. Don't rely so much on what you "think" your're seeing. I have a similar problem when drawing from life. But keep at it! The sculpture paintings are great too!! Kudos, man!! We need to get together soon but I'm so freakin' busy. Lemme see what I can do about that. Talk at ya later.
Another week, another picture dump... There's a lot more stuff in this one, and I feel pretty good about the work I've done in the last seven days. First though, I gotta do those responses.
KronosThanks for the encouragement. Yeah... I know I need to work on stuff a little more, unfortunately I have little more than excuses to offer about that. Time is always an issue, and I just work sooo slowly.
BadgerThanks for stopping in, man! Glad you liked the robot. Environments have always been a pain in my backside, it's something that I've been putting effort into slowly but surely... Problem is I know I'm weak at them, and that makes me hate doing them even more. The books are a great reccomendation, and I have looked at them some... it's really just an issue of synthesizing that information. Fave printing technique? I emphasized etching and screen printing, but all I've done recently is relief screen printing. I don't know... probably etching, I guess. (how's that for a straight answer?)
fooxooThanks for the comments. Yeah... I'm working on that stuff, I see improvement pretty much every day, but it's also a one step forward, two steps back sort of a situation... you know?
DruYou know it buddy!
NateThanks, man! Right back at 'cha
ZebzFreeHey! Thanks for coming in when you can, really I'm only online one or three times a week myself. One of my resolutions for the new year is to update this book at least once a week. The only real path to improvement is constant work, and a community of critique and encouragement. Just let me know when your schedule clears up. I'm planning on going down to Warsaw the weekend after next to do some drawing with friends, and I think were going to try to plan one for next month too (right guys?), if you want to join in. Other than that, I'm free most evenings after seven and all day on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Okay, on to the pictures...
The first page is just kind of blah... I didn't really feel like doing anything, and was still feeling aimless. It's pages (and days) like that, that make me question whether this is really something I want to pursue. On the next page though, I guess I found my center again. There's a lot of just doodling there, but also what I feel is a fairly strong drawing of one of my primary characters. I've been developing him for awhile now, and am trying to sort of flesh him out both as a character and as a design. I also kind of figured that since I'm so comfortable with him, I can use him to work of posing, and environments. We'll see...
The third page is more doodles, and more work on the Omar character... I like the seated pose pretty well, and well the three-quarters view with an arched back is I guess a little more interesting than a straight on view...
Here's a self portrait, to fulfill the life drawing segment of this weeks book... All in all I don't think it's bad, but I did sort of squash the top of my head, and I also put my eyes too close together... Oh! And here's the obligatory photo of myself, so you can all see how far I strayed from the truth in my drawing. (btw, I actually did shave off my goatee, so don't tell me that I forgot to draw it.)
Lastly is an attempt to escape a hospital ward. I wanted him to appear emaciated, and weak, and that he couldn't move very fast. I think I was on the right track, but that it just didn't work out. Maybe next time. Also there's a WIP of a piece on Haiti (duh) drawn from photographs. I actually had to start this over this afternoon, because I wrecked it when I started inking it. Oh, well... Actually so far, the do over is looking better than the original, so maybe it's not all bad, eh?
All right then folks, if I don't see you before then, I'll talk at you next week. take care and be good.
Originally Posted by kingcoyote
You sooooo look like one of the dudes off of Mythbusters. I like the stuff you put up. Remember to not be so hard on yourself. Aimless wandering can be good. It can lead to beautiful spontenaity, creative mistakes, and truely original thinking. It can also lead to the women's restroom and a kick in the ding-ding, BUT that's another story...
I tend to like the self protrait and your Haiti sketch the best. I would give deeper resonance to my reasons why, but it is 9 am, and I forgot to eat my pop-tarts.
Thanks Dru. It's amazing to me how many people I know (but who don't know each other) say I look like the guys from Mythbusters! Either one, or the other, or the bastard child of some unholy union of the two. Weird...
I'll be dumping some more stuff, probably tomorrow or the next day.
i don't know about your politics...
(just kidding ), but things are looking pretty sweet in here. haha... :-P
Here's my OPINING: the recent self portrait http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...tch_jan008.jpg is really looking quite nice. I really enjoy the way that your pages turn into these fun compositions with lots of different things going on, but i believe that in the case of a more serious, observational drawing like the self portrait that drawing other stuff onto the page afterward might kind of detract from the finished whole. I wouldn't worry about this sort of thing being perfect, just try to do more of it, still lives, drawing pictures of inanimate objects, and you'll be on the road to kick-assing in no time.
There is a mech-suit drawing (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...tch_dec011.jpg) that i particularly like because of the three dimensional way that you've demonstrated the form of the suit. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ch_sept028.jpg appears to be very nice, but the background marker stuff is a little bit destracting.
keep up the great work... lets see some more!
you latest stuff is really cool, seems like your spending more time on your sketches, good good good! i really like the blue pen one you did against the wall....
i think an issue you have with some of these drawings is that the face almost seems warped, as if their skulls where make of jelly or something? just working on anatomy studies should help improve on this in a huge way..... SO GET TOO IT!!!
nah, joking, just keep it up man, going strong
KingCoyote, bro, lovin' that you're continually updating this thing. I've been slacking pretty hard and just haven't found the time with this new semester starting up. This new schedule was supposed to work out a bit better for me but it's not been an easy one! But I love my classes and I think I'm starting to venture into some more professional water with my art skills. It's exciting. More on my life in my own sketchbook when I get around to updating! Heh, hopefully this weekend. I keep forgetting to scan stuff before I hand it in to my teachers and stuff. Dang it.
Like I said, tho. This work is coming along. You're drawings remind me a lot of Maxetormer's (SP?) stuff on here at CA. At least where he was when he got started on here, he's grown a lot. You've got to keep working from life and force yourself to see some realistic stuff. Anatomy study and understanding the planes withing the figures is crucial. You're trying to stylize your drawings and you could sell that as a style I guess but it only comes across as a weakness. They aren't fully working. You need to keep pluggin' at those basic skills. For example the self portrait is defiantely a step in the right direction. But it's still too flat. You've gotta start seeing these things more 3 dimensionally and render them that way. It starts with planes. Take a look at Gabo's stuff. He really took this approach to whole new levels. Kevin Chen's figure demos are also helpful and I think you can find those on here as well (KChen). Something else to start thinking about is lighting. Really trying to understand the basic values in a lighted shpere (single light source) made drastic impacts on my onverall understanding of form in general. That's the key word. Form. Right now things are stuff and flat. You've gotta understand the form if you want to change that. It's a continual battle, man. Just keep it up. Study, study, study! My imagination drawings have improved ten fold just because of the time I've spent studying stuff. And I haven't studied near enough and my work shows it.
Hope you can take some of this home with ya. Put it to use! Hopefully you'll develop a better work ethic than me. I like how you using perspective in some areas too. Keep doin' that. I'm definately up for some sketch meet ups. Life is moving psycho fast right now as I'm in my last semester of school. Keep me in the loop and I'll try to organize as I can. Wow. I just blabbed a whole lot. lol Keep up the great work, man. Hope everything else is great. And it's cool you know other artist's in the area. I don't know many. But I'm going to start going to the Artist's Guild's Illustrator's meetings. Hopefully I'll meet up with some there. Anyhow... I'm out. Later, bro!
NateYeah, he's coming along... I think as I get older, and my outlook changes, it's only natural for him to change some too. No that's not the same girl... she's one that I came up with last year, adn am trying to develop a little bit more.
Kronos Hey, thanks man! Yeah, I've been working as much as I possible in the ole sketch book lately... I have a lot of ground to cover, and I feel like I have less and less time to do it. I noticed the mishapeness of my figures the other day when I was uploading the new pictures, and I think I know what the issue is... I've been drawing while I watch TV, and so my book is litting on the coffee table while I'm working. Basically, it's at a really weird, low angle, and I'm sitting a few feet back from it. Basically they look right to me, but when you look at them from straight on, they get skewed.
ZebzFreeThanks for the comments, man. I've been think about what you said here for the last couple of days, and they pretty much all hit home (that's always a tough admission to make, but you know what they say, "The first step to recovery..."). More life drawing, I know... I've noticed that when I don't do the life stuff regularly, the rest starts to fall off rapidly. some of my "old" tricks and techniques keep popping up if I'm not constantly vigilant. You're right, it is part of my style, but it also comes off as kind of a weakness more often than not. It's kind of one of those you have to know the rules to break them sort of a things...
Well guys, I'm gonna keep on pluggin' away at this thing. Thanks for the comments, (and for just checkin' my stuff out). I'll dump some more stuff on (probably) Tuesday, or Wednesday.
Good stuff man, to improve the solidity of faces, borrow your friends and draw them. Drawing from reference really helps to cement in the knowledge, i relaly need to do more of it.
for a real poshing the values experiment, try only using a permanent marker and drawing only the shadows, i think it trains the mind really well.
Example 1 and 2 (apologies for the bad art, they are some of my old ones, i need to scan some new ones)
Zebzfree's comments echo loudly too me too... i should go learn some tech.
Keep on posting mate!
BadgerThanks for the feedback, man! I'll try to give your "experiment" a go this week. I just wish I had more time...
Here's the dump for this week... Sorry about the mess ups in the images. For some reason, the floppy that I'm using to move images from home to where I can upload them to the internet messes up the pics. Anyway, I'll try to fix that soon.
These first two drawings are pretty much just doodles. The first one I did while I was talking on the phone, and am pretty happy with all in all. Her right side (it's been pointed out to me) is pretty flat though, and the arm is kind of smushed into her body. So much to work on...
A drawing of my friend Mario drawing in an easy chair... I had fun doing it. The other is some preliminary drawings for a group project that we decided to do while we were all down in Warsaw, It's called Clockwork Cowboys, and is a steampunk western setting with also paranormal activities (read zombies, aliens, etc...) Basically it's the Wild, Wild West TV show meets the X-Files. I know this drawing is pretty weak, but (to make an excuse for myself) it was towards the end of the day, and I was pretty tired.
This is a drawing I did for a "contest" that my friends daughter sponsered... I won the earth medallion for my efforts.
And finally, another WIP on that Haiti piece (are you tired of seeing it yet?). It's coming along... A little slower than I would like, but I think that's partly because the finishing work on it scares the hell out of me. Right now I'm waiting on some Zip-A-Tone too. Hopefully next week I'll have a finished piece to show you.
Well, that's it for now! Until later, then, take care and be good.
Keep going!! Nice sketches, King! I like that you're starting to try and see the form more. Just keep drawing!! I want more, more, more! Thanks for your color suggestions. I tried some of your ideas out and they really helped!
ZebzFree Thanks for the comments man! Yeah, I'm really trying to take to heart what's being laid down to me here... It's hard sometimes though, I guess it's like any habit or rut that you get into. It's hard to break. Glad I could help out!
Okay, here's this weeks dump...
The first picture is mostly just doodles... some of them are related with this steam-punk project I'm working on, and theres a quickie figure study from a photograph. I was really busy, and wasn't really able to finish it up. The second drawing is the coffee maker in the breakroom at work. I'd done some work on it, and then taken it home, after looking at for a while I totally got what Zebs was saying about flatness... even though all the tones were technically there, it still didn't look three-dimensional. so I went back and worked on it some more. It's not perfect, but it's pretty okay, I think.
More doodles... just messing around with poses and stuff... Nothing too serious. The nurse, I did for my mother-in-law. She wants me to do some illustrating for her, so I did this to kind of see how well my stuff will work for her... I think I'm gonna have to try again. She liked the idea, but the drawing itself won't really work yet...
Next is an unfinished page. I'll probably work more on it tonight. I wanted to put it in, because I was pretty happy with the feller on the right. Again... not a perfect drawing, but I think (maybe not but hey...) I'm starting to get the idea of form. The second is a self portrait that i did in sharpie. It relates to something Badger said last week, so I thought I'd give it a try. Overall, I'm pretty happy with it. It's a little sloppy in places, but I think it's a good likeness, and the excercise does help me to see the shadows a little better. More work, more improvement, right?
And finally, another WIP of that Haiti piece... I'm actually a bit further along than this, but the other scan wouldn't upload for some reason. I promise I'm going to have this one done next week. I'm sick of looking at it.
So... Until next week then, take care and be good.
wow! love your robots. you have some very inventive stuff. pretty good persective on most everything and nice values too. eyes are pretty important in a picture b/c usually a person looking at it is drawn to them. so if i may suggest focusinf a little on eyes sometime. thanks a lot for the props and advice!
PenningtonHey, thanks for stopping by, man! Glad you liked the robots... I do love robots.
Yeah, eyes are a struggle... I'm working on them, but there's just so much other stuff too, you know? One of the things I'm looking at more is how the eyebrows, and really, even the eyelids affect how the mood of a face looks.
I generally have issues with disembodied body parts, but maybe that's something I need to do to geet all the ptactice in that I need, in the time I have to do it... sorry, just rambling, really.
Lovin' da updates! That coffee machine is AWESHOME! Keep doin' those life studies cuz they're really going to help you when you start seein things come alive in your imagination works. Some figure work and anatomy work would really help. Keep rockin' this thread. I love how you're puttin' yourself out here by updatin' often. Great work, man.
ZebsFree Thanks for the comments man, you really help keep me goin'! I'm trying to get more done but... Well... I don't have any good excuses.
I finally got this piece done, and I gotta' say, it's good to have it over with. A lot of things scared me about this project, but I feel like I pushed myself in the right direction, and pulled off some things I wasn't sure I was really capable of...