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Originally Posted by Chuck,mate.really cool chains.
the rest need a bit more workin` though.
nice jonb dude.WHERE, where could it use more work? Might as well not give a critique if you're just gonna give a vague opinion. Put some thought into your critique, PLEASE!!!Originally Posted by wojteki agree - could use some more work here and there.
still, good work.
Last edited by IILooney; September 4th, 2005 at 10:33 AM.
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i've got to agree with looney... where does it need more work? concept art is usally loosely done, i believe. are you saying it needs more detail? contrast? what?
maye take out the fog/mist near the point on teh iceberg thingy? Idk...good work though, I like it.
I disagree with you about the colors, I think they're great. Could your low opinion of them be due to having in a general sense grown tired of or dissatisfied with the peice as you continued to work on it?
This has a lot of unique and compelling stuff going on , but I find I need to concentrate hard in order to immerse myself in the subject. All the right things are there, but the effect is too subtle in some ways. I think the type of image you wanted to create is of the variety that employs prespective, reference objects, layers of distance, composition, and such to augment the feeling of massivity to the highest level possible. Off hand, here's a few ways I can think of that these elements could have been put to more effective use:
1. More definite scale references... the chains are the most indicative of scale, but they could be more indicative, for example, are the links the size of a hand, or the size of a man's chest, ...how are we to tell? The sparseness ( lack of flags, birds, people,) communicates the idea that the location is isolated and bleak, but it sacrifices perhaps too much in regards to reinforcing scale.
2. main subject could be more prominent and imposing... the no-brainer solution to this problem would have been to place the viewer beneath and exaggerate the prespective so that we feel dwarfed in comparison to the castle and the ice. I like that you didn't immediately go for the option of sticking a protruding fish-eyed view of the castle all up in our face, but choosing an alternative approach requires clever manipulation so that the castle, while only taking up a small percentage of the feild of view, still demands our reverence.
3. more...High time I rustled me up some bed...so I'll update this reply at a later date
4. writing at this time of night not such a good idea...
I think it's beautiful.
the chains on the left as it connects to the castle gets blurred a little too much.
I agree with the scale reference, but it isn't really necessary.
you could put some sort of animal in there to give you perspective... maybe a gull perched on the chain up close?
also your colors are fine. it has that weta bleakness to it.
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Interesting idea, but the perspective on the upper left chain is off, it is vanishing too fast, making the chain look strangely warped. I think the angled windows on the building make it look a bit crooked, it would be good if you could clarify the shape a bit more, I think (and the side windows are a bit pointless, looking out on the walls ).
I really like this, and I think the color (or lack thereof) works just fine... assuming "cold and bleak" is what you're going for. I think the building and chains look great, but the rock cliffs still look too unfinished and photoshop-smudgy (particularly the right-side vertical cliff).
Well, actually on second look, the upper left chain perspective is a bit wonky... makes the chain look like its curving out in a sideways arc rather than just hanging down, but those links are really well rendered. (ugh - I hate drawing chains)
Originally Posted by IILooneyWHERE, where could it use more work? Might as well not give a critique if you're just gonna give a vague opinion. Put some thought into your critique, PLEASE!!!
HMHM indeed. You need to sharpen up the point of that cliff, even if you wanted it to look like it could fall of at any second. (in which case I'd suggest putting in some falling rocks, ice or snow anyway) The colors are beautiful, as are the chains, but on the walls of the castle I think you need more texture. You do a great job of texturing it with the colors alone, that is to say, most people don't leave the outsides of their fortresses undecorated. maybe that's what you were aiming for, but I think it'd look more epic with stuff on it.
Hi guys, you are right, color is not a good excuse. You know, dealing with a one-color image does let me feel painful. I did another work right after this one, which is just a quick sketch so far, but I wanna test how much color can affect the look. Not any special idea in it, just a play.
Thanks for all those comments though. I'll think about them when I get home. Kinds crazy in office today.
Last edited by Aura.J; September 9th, 2005 at 06:21 PM.
I took some liberties with the design to aide in my critique, I hope you don't mind (if you do, I'll remove this modified version).
I felt that the spearhead thrust effect this has might stand being accentuated more, so I extended the right margin and made the left side of the glacier not protrude so far. Now you might get more of a sense that the main mass is behind the castle and is being thrust across the picture laterally. I tried to emphasize and add some interesting lines (indicated in red) ...now the castle is the calm in the midst of a storm of busy "currents" that our eye can cruise along.
I don't know if this version is much of an improvement, but hopefully it shows 1. that it is possible to emphasize the lateral thrust, sense of weight shifting to the left, and 2. have more contrasting lines movement within the forms. Also The ice on the chains and birds in the sky are my suggestions for possible scale references...I think one or the other (not both) would be ok to use.
Of course not. I appreciate that you still pay attention to this work. I do like your idea. Actually I tried a lot of different ways to compose this frame before, I was even thinking to add a dragon into this scene (I did the sketch below for that idea), but you know it doesn't work. But what you just did is really help this. Do you mind if I keep working on this painting and use some of your idea?Originally Posted by SimI took some liberties with the design to aide in my critique, I hope you don't mind (if you do, I'll remove this modified version).
Wow your really good ! The first painting looks like something John Howe would have painted for Lord of the Rings . I think it's very worth finishing it's a pretty cool design . Maybe even almost extend the painting cause at this point your like .." hmm those chains are cool but why are they there " ? The second painting is awesome ..a little work and it could be a Matte quality painting ...very nice !
Do I mind? Of course not, I'm honored to have successfully encouraged you to continue. Have fun!Originally Posted by Aura.JDo you mind if I keep working on this painting and use some of your idea?