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Wow, thanks everyone for the votes. I didn't think I would get any at all this week since I really didn't have the time to work on it like I usually do. I thought my story was good but the execution didn't quite turn out like I had in my head. The only thing I liked about it was the sewer lid. I attempted to redo the background but just didn't have it in me this week. Maybe I need a break and just don't want to admit it.
And now for this weeks comments:
Uziel - This could have been pushed a little further. It's a good start but still a little hard to see the creature.
GreenTopaz - Very nice entry. I like the scale you gave the creature and the concept reminds me of having snails in an aquarium. It's good to know there is something cleaning our sewers
Genital Eclipse - Nicely rendered piece of artwork. I like the composition and the mood you created. I think the whole concept of something being attached to its surroundings by cables/cords/umbilical lifelines/whatever has been overdone though. This thing really doesn't remind me of something you would ever see since it looks as if it can't move 10 ft. Plus I have to give negative points for linking your concept to one of the worst advertising campaigns out there right now. I stopped watching tv a long time ago because of crap like that. Please don't make me tune out conceptart!
Xpose - very creepy looking creature. I think you're in the same position as Uziel though, creature is still a little difficult to make out.
MIKECORRIERO - The concept was funny and I liked the color and texture you put into it. The only thing that turned me off was the generic frog pose that kind of killed the energy to the piece. Where the feet or toes go into the water is kind of awkward for the size of the creature. Great water though.
Shadoman - Very cool entry this week. I like the concept and the rendering is very nice. I would have liked to see a little variation to the color palette though. I think the greens tend to turn a little too cool for a sewer setting. Good job
Leckronium - So, an eight-legged turd with a sewer lid on its head walks into a bar...
Main Loop - While I can see yours a lot better than Uziel's or Xpose's, The lighting could still be improved. Plus I think it's looking exactly like a boar which isn't being creative. You could still keep the same features that a boar has but change something major about it that gives the eye doubt to what it is exactly. This could be changing the size or length of the head, moving the position of the eyes, extending or replacing teeth, etc...
redehlert - I like the look you gave this piece. The composition and mood is good and the concept has a slight twist to it. I think the look of the creature may have not been very eye catching. Maybe if the pose was a little more dramatic?
ThrillzillA - I'm really afraid of this creature and will never sit down to pee ever.
I ended up voting for Shadoman. I think it caught my eye the most and was overall well executed.
Uziel. Your written description is clearly something of an afterthought, which is a shame as it would have been nice to think there was more thought behind the interesting visual design on your creature. Your rendering isn't helping sell your creation either; there are lots of points I could raise here, but the main fault with your image is the poor value placement which allows your beast to get lost in the background. It looks as if you were trying to illuminate just a portion of your creature in a pool of light, but that doesn't mean everything else has to go to mush - you should have tried to make sure that significant parts of the creature's silhouette remained visible ( however subtle ) with a difference in value between subject and background.
GreenTopaz. Nice job. Again, it would have been nice to get a few more details from your written concept as it doesn't really add to your image as it stands, but the creature design is cool. Are you aware that you seem to make a lot of narrow marks when rendering? It almost looks as if you're "sketching with colour" if that makes any sense. Perhaps you might look at using broader, bolder strokes when you paint? I think this would ultimately give you more control over your painting, and is certainly a more efficient way to work if you're comfortable with it. An observation more than a crit.
Genital Eclipse. Some more text that, though humourous, seems largely irrelevant to the image. An image which, though attractive, seems laregly irrelevant to the topic. It's a good concept image, and your economical technique is solid, but there really don't seem to be many concessions to the sewer environment other than your palette. Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but I'd expect you to feature highly in the poll however, as this style of image ( also favoured by Prostate Sunrise and Android ) seems very popular. I'm afraid I don't think you deserve the votes in the context of this topic.
Xpose. The text is pointless, but what we can see of the creature looks believeable. Read my comments on Uziel's entry, because it applies to you also. If you must fade your creature into solid shadow, try to ensure that the forms that are visible are very clearly defined and imply a connection of some kind to the obfuscated portion of the beast.
MIKECORRIERO. That's a good concept piece - we can discern all the important elements of the beast, it's pose and expression communicate something of it's personality and the background lends mood and clearly shows the creature's habitat. I don't get a whole lot of frog from the design however, and I think it would have been more effective with an obviously amphibian element or two in there - thick glistening skin, or frog eyes, for example.
shadoman. Great concept and a good looking image. The pale flesh of your beast is handled nicely. No major crits, but I think some punchy specular highlights to imply some wetness on your creature would go a long way.
leckronium. Well presented description, and your image is great! Your beast shows a great deal of personality and for such a simple picture it has a remarkable narrative quality. Very well done. You choose some very interesting colour schemes in your work, though I notice they often seem to be drawn from a limited palette - perhaps introducing some varying hues would be something to try?
Main Loop. You don't need anyone else to tell you that your beast isn't very exciting. To be fair, a creature that has similarities with "real" animals is not a bad thing and adds to the believeability of your creation considerably, but you'd need to push it just a little further in that case, in my opinion. That said, your painting looks good. I hope Uziel and Xpose take a good look at your piece, as you've handled the fade-to-shadow well on your creature by clearly defining the forms that are visible and placing enough of the beast in the light to allow the eye to successfully "fill in the gaps" even though we can't read it's silhouette.
redehlert. All the elements are there - posed, expressive beast and atmospheric background, but I'm afraid your image falls over in the composition. The vertical break in the middle of the image is very disruptive - especially so as the creature appears boxed off by the archway on the left, and the wall on the right is featureless apart from the torch. Almost two images taped together. I like the one of the left, though.
ThrillzillA. So close. The expression on your creature is great, and suits the style of your funny description very well. If only the image didn't look so awkwardly cropped - it's almost as if the beast is squashed to fit the space provided. Your colouring is also very messy - more time here would have been very well spent.
Enjoy the break.
Uziel - Nice Entry but it looked like more detail and time was needed to develop it into a stunning entry.
GreenTopaz - I loved this entry, its an all round pleasing piece: nice concept and artwork, the only crit i have is the walls and roof - they just have a strange look about them
Genital Eclipse - This is great artwork but i'm not getting a sewer beast vibe, more of a alien plugged into some sort of matrix style machine
Xpose - Great idea but the rendering of the head is different from the body: the head looks scaly and the body looks matt. The legs are a bit chunky to. If more time was put in this would have been another great piece.
MIKECORRIERO - i liked the concept of the mutant frog, that was perfect but the artwork could have been better - the work i have seen on your employment page is much much better than this.
shadoman - I liked the artowork and concept had some nice ideas in it. My only suggestion is that the water under its arms should be less cartoony - it has a different style to the rest of the piece.
leckronium - I loved this idea - as with much of your work but again this work has its flaws - the creature itself looks a little flat - and the sewer hole seems to be less detailed than the creature
Main Loop - Like foz said, its kinda just a boar with a rats tail - however the style is great
redehlert - Another nice one, however the back wall and the wall next to the creature don't look right angle-wise, wither the front should be sloped towards the viewer more or the back should be sloping away from the viewer
ThrillzillA - I liked this because you have a style that isn't seen here much - Kinda like Quentin Blake (artist for the Roald Dahl books) - It may have been nicer with a background though.
Sorry for the lateness in this response... vacation first.
Thank you all for your kind words, votes, and helpful critiques. I am happy and sad about the COW summer break. It will hopefully draw more users in with more passion, but I will really miss the thread. Time to get out the oil paints...
TOP 3 VOTES:
GreenTopaz - I thought that this image was great. I liked the composition and rendering. The water was good as well as the lighting. And the ickiness of the ooze from the creature sold it. You got my vote.
GenitalEclipse - Great design and the McDonald's reference in the concept. The overall feel to the piece was very Gigerish by the lighting, rendering, and head-on composition. The only thing I think that needed some work was the lack of depth.
leckronium - I loved this concept and the style of the writing as a log. The lighting, rendering, and textures were good, but the difference in style between the creature and the manhole cover threw me off. The creature just seemed more cartoony than that of the manhole cover.
thanks to everyone who critiqued my piece rather than just saying "it looks like a boar" Although thats valid, since i REALLY slacked on the concept and decided to make it rendering practice.. i just dont like to create stuff out of scratch on a wacom.. next time i participate i think i will sketch it out on paper first.. So yeah, even the negative crits help the most
edit: just in case anybody voted for themselves or had buddies vote for them and knew they didnt deserve to win.. shame on you
Last edited by Main Loop; June 27th, 2005 at 12:51 AM.
WTF I have a vote? Somebody must have clicked the wrong button.
I think my PS coloring skillz suck, compared with others but I'll work on it during summer didn't had much time lately.
Thnx for the c&c
"Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."
Shadoman - Thanks for the comments and I agree with the lack of depth comment. Will try to push that further next time. I enjoyed your piece a lot and it definitely achieved more 'sewer' feel than mine!
As far as comments on the story. That's great. My dad has yet to write a serious story for any of my lame CoW entries which obviously hurts the submissions. I apologize for that and will talk to him about being a bit more serious for my future posts.
yeah, shadoman concept is the bee's so it gets my vote on that strength, I would have liked to have seen maybe slightly more human remainy characteristics, jus like.. i dunno eyes or summit ?
diggin Genital Eclipse artwork, juss, aye lacking a little on concept.
i voted for greentopaz. in the end, i just liked the image overall. this was something that would inspire and unfortablness for me. could be some kinda phobia to bugs though
lots of great entries. I'll have to try one of these one day when im not so busy with work.
Just a quick shout out of THANKS! to all that crit'qd my COW and a special thank you to that someone out there that gave me a vote. Much obliged! See ya'll in four weeks! BTW, if anyone wants to give crits on my latest project, click on the link in my signature file re: thunderdome: life aquatic....
Have a great break all!
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "i" in meat pie. Meat is the anagram of team...~Shaun "Shaun of the Dead"
Tough choice between leckronium and shadoman for me. Creep-crawling, writhing, ugly, miserable things, I easily see both of their creatures living down there with all our gunk. Leck's critter looks like the personification of poop itself! While Shado's slug's orifice looks like that which spews out the stool. Hmm in the end, a coin toss was in order, and so Shado got my vote.
Grats to everyone who joined the last round. Looking forward to seeing COW's resurrection.
I voted for Shadoman. I can actually picture your creature in NYC sewer systems.
I'm not sure "Realistic" is the word. It's more cartoony than real. Main Loop's seems the most realistic IMO< but i still voted fro Green topaz, cause I dig the way she colors. I like dem eyes Gray, they're awesome! (BUt the water seems fairly sketchy.)
gen elcipse got with the "suckle duckles"
great lighting and feel. great job Geen, X and shadow.
Gen. Eclipse had me at hello.
There was a special place reserved in my heart for Leckronium's entry the moment I saw it... so I voted for it Many other great ones as well, but you just don't forget your first love...
Again everyone thanks for sending votes my way. I'm glad you enjoyed the concept. From the reaction I'm getting, I now wished I would have spent more time on it to make it look a little better.
bluefooted - Really? I've been thinking about taking the text and illustrating a few pages to keep me busy over the COW break. If I go through with it I'll be sure to post it for everyone to see.
Originally Posted by MIKECORRIEROI smell Conspiracy
why? because people like Gen Eclipse's work? or because you have one vote?
Just wanted to thank everyone who gave me c/c and votes and all that I'm glad you liked my slug thing
you can count on me rollin round this forum again when this summer break thing ends 'till then.
Come on now, that's no way to be. I'm sure if all the boys and girls at ArenaNet would stop voting for one another it would probably not come across as a conspiracy. I'm sure that's all that Mike meant by his comment.Originally Posted by CornPonywhy? because people like Gen Eclipse's work? or because you have one vote?
Well....for once I'm happy to announce that I tied MikeC! It was a tough battle, but the two votes garnered by each of us was a tough battle to say the least. Let us shake hands and do battle once more in a month.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "i" in meat pie. Meat is the anagram of team...~Shaun "Shaun of the Dead"