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What do you hate and why inasmuch as art goes? simple, huh?
Splash-a-canvas: art requires mroe than just posturing as a deep, meaningful expression. It requires love and patience, not 12 minutes and a cig!
That and the ever present comment people say to me when they see my art: *Dopey Voice* "You know, I'm an artist too...." Holy shit! You don't say! Christ it gets old seeing half-ass art. maybe I'm alone in this, though.
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You're in Wyoming. I think that's one of the definitions of being alone. The third one, maybe; after being in Ashley Simpson's Fan Club and thinking Vallejo is even worthy of fluffing Frazetta.Originally Posted by klinesmoker...maybe I'm alone in this, though.
The "Every sketch I make is worthy of comment/critque" attitude and posts of far too many members who even admit it's something they quickly slap together while bored...I wish they'd stick their quickie sketches on their 'fridge, and post something they actually took some time to do!
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The "if you don't have anything nice to say..." attitude about art.
Huh, something a lot like this has been bothering me recently...
I do know people like that... Most of the "artsy" people from my high school are junkies of this coffee shop downtown and I've been asked how come I don't come hang out with them since I'm an artist too... I don't really have anything in common with the other artists at my school though. Of course, it's high school, they're more about expression and rebellion than discipline... I guess I'm mature for my age or something. Sorry, I don't really know if any of it makes any sense but it's sort of been bothering me...
I am not sure if this is ok to put here.. But I hate artist that despise using computer (painter/photoshop) as a medium. I had someone at work say "I hate digital stuff, the computer does everything for you..." Those narrow minded people really put me off. They talk as if there's a filter that creates faces and all the expressions in the world. If not done in with a pencil it's not a proper sketch, if it's not coloured in traditional medium on paper it's not a paiting. Because the computer do all the drawing and painting for you with a single click of a button.
can't really say I hate these, hate is such a strong word. I just don't like certain things and as long as they dont get in my way, I'm fine with their existance.
One of those certain things include the 2 minute splash on canvas deal, or whatever the conceptual art is with things that seem to be done without effort (i don't care what they say, a dot on a blank canvas is a dot on a blank canvas. fine by me if they want to hung it up in museum, just don't try to convince me it's worth millions of dollars).
The other thing is people who judge things with strong opinions without trying them first. It includes people who judge digital art being a simple form when they never painted with it (or just open it up and run a few filter with it), or people who thinks certain style is the best and they will soley paint in that style without experiement other types.
on the other hand, i always respect those who always keep an open mind, try everything from mediums to styles to subject matters.
I loathe art students who think every single thing they paint, draw, or extrude from their bodily orifices has to be deeply symbolic and technically innovative/unpracticed. The ones that never really just draw for the hell of it. The Artiste. Same goes for those art history pricks who constantly compare themselves to obscure postmodernists you've probably never heard of but they know a lot about them so they must be secretly influential and at the bleeding edge of artistic innovation and you're just a lowly illustrator with your ridiculous robots and space ships.
I hate when I show smn art, they ask what it means, and when I say nothing theyre dissappointed.
When people think crits are wrong because the artist doesnt see a problem with it.
When things are written off as a style.
When I dont like abstract art, people think im uneducated.
When abstract and style is an excuse for sucking.
And so so much more....
When people say: "You're not born to be an artist, only the true artists are BORN with all those great skills... There's no way hardwork can make up for true 'talent'." ... Ugh.
..ptttf...... I have to agree with you there... disgusts me..Originally Posted by OddsWhen people say: "You're not born to be an artist, only the true artists are BORN with all those great skills... There's no way hardwork can make up for true 'talent'." ... Ugh.
And then, when you practice your ass off for years and start to get good, someone sees your work and says "Wow. I wish I was gifted too."Originally Posted by OddsWhen people say: "You're not born to be an artist, only the true artists are BORN with all those great skills... There's no way hardwork can make up for true 'talent'." ... Ugh.
I don't hate it, but I get very tired of people who photo ref their asses off and then pass it off as their own invention.
Knight of the Cross- All the artsy kids that were at my school were all potheads. Which is fine, but it's assumed that because I have the shared abilities, I as well smoke it up. It's fine what others do, but that's like saying everyone who drives cars enjoys nascar....ugh.
I greatly dislike the
"Man I want to learn how to draw"
"Oh really? I can help you, or at least point you in the right direction"
"no its fine, it's just a hobby"
"dont you wish breathing was just a hobby? pfffffllllbbbbbtttt!"
Exactly. I hate that too. People say that so they have an excuse for their own laziness to practice drawing and art.Originally Posted by Odds
I just wanted to pipe in a bit, Not to step on any ones toes or just disagree, because i do agree with alot of what people have been saying on this thread, but i do disagree with some of it and i want to adress that.
Klinesmoker- When you say splash a canvas and 12 minutes, i hope your not talking about the more famous non objective painters like pollock (ofcourse im going to say pollock, he is probably the most recognisable of that form) Because his did not take 12 minutes, He used Immense scale, he mastered control of the paint, and had suggestive meaning behind his pieces, he got people to think and open their minds. And then once starting that movement, more people followed. And i do admit their are alot of people who dont know what their doing, and do just what you said, but those people suck and arent going to get any where in the art world, so why worry.
The people who go around saying "Oh im an artist" I agree, most people that are that pretentious are just going to end up with their foot in their mouth and looking like fools, so let them lay in the bed they make.
-look- Most fine art deserves to be fine art, and suprisingly alot of the (dot on a canvas stuff) is very thought out, well crafted, paint applied in such a way as to make you not even see brush strokes, Not all, but the good stuff. Its composition, form, color, value, basics of art, minimalism.
Besides you just kinda contradicted your self, You are talking about people need open minds, and try things, and dont judge, but you just did that to non objective minimalism.
Lightkirtar- abstract and style is not an excuse for sucking. Most of the great artists who started abstraction were better artists then any one on this forum, they mastered realism, then explored other possibilities, grew. SOME people who do abstract do use it as a crutch, but what you said was certainly not an absolute.
Well thats what i got to say, stickin up for the arts, take it how you will.
I hate the "posers". People who think they are capable of making art but lacks the knowledge to do so. They also like to hang out with the "professionals" to buff up their image. But the ones that really irritate me are people who make a bunch of low quality art so they can give those to the galleries and make money of that.
I said I hate ppeople when they do that, but im not saying all abstract art.
dude, i would like to make some comment... although i was never an art expert myself. (still trying my best to better my painting skill. =_=.)
to me, personally, i love and respect almost any type of art and their creater... but i have no respect and renounce those who "copy the character created by others" (well, so call the copy cat, although, i preferred to call them copy-shit. =_=.) i really think people should boycutt those scum and their work, in order to protect those who are loved by their original creater... anyhow, as i always believe, real artists don't copy, hope i am not alone here, eh?
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much needed me thinks . hates to strong a word for me, although cant help agree with peoples points. I do however sligtly disagree with:Originally Posted by blankslatejoebut, in conclusion, i love conceptart.org.
just spreading the positive vibes, good sirs.
'"if you don't have anything nice to say..." attitude about art."'
All constructive critism is good in my books, but theirs no need to be needlessly horrible just because you do'nt agree with a persons views or work.
well, just thought I'd add a comment
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yea, i agree with flatliner...
although, i used to be one of those people who would get mad with cirticism on my artwork, i'm starting to take it alot better, cuz i mean hey, its criticism to help u right? 8)