Fayt: Do some Loomis studies. Draw some stuff out of Figure Drawing for All It's Worth and put the stuff up here.
There's a couple of things wrong with the last drawing, but that's probably because you're bring some habits from your anime style, and you're not really looking at your drawings. For example, in the last drawing of the woman, her breasts start at her armpits. If you look at the picture, they're quite a bit under that. The main body also isn't such a straight line downwards, it's much more curved. One of the things we all have to learn and never forget is "Draw what you see, not what you think you see." If you look intently at what you draw, you'll do it a lot better.
The important thing is that you are drawing something, whether it be from life or from imagination, but I agree with just about everyone that you need to draw more from life. The thing that is difficult for most beginners to understand is to draw what you see instead of the symbol of that object you have in your head. It's apparent on the last drawing of britney. Don't be discouraged though, a big part of improvement is recognizing your own faults, if you can't realize them you will not improve, manga or otherwise. I started off drawing manga-style stuff and yours remind me very much of mine. I can tell you from personal experience that you will not improve by just drawing manga. Don't ever give up, life drawing is key and you will probably learn to like it after awhile, good luck
well, this is my newest, I think it is ok to darw manga and realism, because it sometimes gets frustrating dawing only from real live. Adn the loomis book is just ok, but not as good as some say here,.
right now, you're still pretty new, so just draw -a lot- of ANYTHING, to build up your handmuscles, develop your eye, and get into the habit of drawing. and to make sure you're having fun. Draw like a maniac, and your linework will get better, and your characters will look more like those you want to draw.
Not to be crude, but that's the masterbatory side of drawing. Sure, it's fun, but it serves little purpose. Once you've gotten through all that, then maybe take another look at loomis. The better you get, the more you'll realize it's value. But for now, do whatever is fun to get you more into drawing.
There's also bridgeman, hogarth (bleh) and simblet you can study, and a few other anatomy fiends you might prefer over loomis. But there aren't that many, so don't be so quick to let your niavety toss off loomis lightly.
Uh - keep working on it!
I searched for help in all my loomis images, but I didnīt find an answer, so please help, how can I draw his body correctly?
hey, cool that you're here...
link's skull needs to be fuller in the back
no one is going to help you with the body if you don't post a drawing of his body.
good luck, - keep drawing!
here we goOriginally Posted by one2hit
his back needs to be a bit straighter, and his chest/waist moved rightwards...and his ear is too large...otherwise good sketch
This isn't the best example I can give, so maybe someone else can help you out better...
anyways...I think you're worrying too much about the lines, than the shapes. Look at the shapes, and try to get them the same size in proportion...when you draw the lines, try to get their angle right, and the distance right. The line has to be going in the same direction and be the same distance as in the reference, in relationship to another line or distance, or where something else stops or starts...make any sense? For example...if I draw a line for his leg, I have to make sure that it is the right angle and the line does not go further, or stop shorter than where his hand is (or any other object I can relate it to)..well I hope that helps. Try looking here:
try measuring your arms and legs so they are in proportion with the rest of the body for example, if you look at the right leg the calf is the same length as the thigh, and the boot widens up at the end (i don't know if you were including the boot in yet), his front torso is kind of curves in instead of out....i know i'm being an ass, and this is just a basic sketch, and i'm sure it will turn out great when you add to it. just practice because you definatly got what it takes
Last edited by deez; June 7th, 2005 at 07:25 PM.
thanks one two
I will try it again, very difficult, I didnīt think......well then.....
Practise and practise thatīs all you can do.
Itīs all about understanding.
Took the last sketch,
try to imagine how it would look like if the gesture would be straight.
Do you see what i mean?
Because you would see that the proportions arenīt quite right.
(thighs are to long in relations)
I would study from references to get a feeling how it looks correctly.
(live drawing above picture drawings!)
Afterwards you can try if you remembered the things you drew, by drawing them from imagination.
And also go for anatomy studies... there is no really way around them!
Keep it up!
Loomis is great...you'd be wise to study from him drag. Dunno which site you are using but I know all of his books (or at least his 4 best ones) are at http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?cat=1 If you look around in the sketchbook forums, you'll notice that a lot of people study bridgman and loomis!
Just a question (which probably nobody will answer), how did the artist drawed such cool hair?
I first want to know how to draw hair, then I will finish this one.
but she did it with a regular pencil, right?Originally Posted by blankslatejoe
well, I think my last drawing I posted here are not mangas.Originally Posted by cthomp
I think your ideas of how an eye, a nosse, a mouth looks like distorts your view on the object. Try to stay back from your ideas and interpretations and simple stay with what you see. Then you will slowly gain a basic understanding of how things are put together. It is very obious with your eyes, they look like anime-eyes and not like real ones. Your influence is obious with all the facial features you draw. My advice would be to study them in detail in order to get rid of your ideas you're having right now.
It seems you have gotten more humble and eager to learn and listen from the people here. That's a very good thing.
sure, next time I will post more realistic images, sorry for those, but the faces are not the most important aspects, are they?Originally Posted by ~Faust~
I still do not know what to to with his shoulder
oh please, help me with that hand, I tried it thousands of times, but it looks alwasy wrong.
ya know that pose^^ the hands, again...
first time I darwed a chara more than one time
some of them wre just for realaxing.....do not be mad, I became afraid of posting manga here, I swear I will post more realistic stuff........does anybody care?
Here's a tip, drawing isn't easy, its a skill that takes lots of practice, I hate to sound negative, but if you keep saying in every other post that drawing from real life is hard, and that Loomis sucks - those are telling signs that perhaps you really do not have the nack for this.
There have been multiple posts on here from amazing artists telling and SPOONFEEDING you what the hell to do and yet you ignore their advice and happily go on doing the wrong thing (and yes, you are doing the wrong thing).
Learn proper anatomy, learn perspective, learn how to render and STOP drawing anime if you want people to stop saying your work sucks - how difficult can it be?
I'll tell you, plenty difficult, but if you can't get past this fact and start putting in some real effort, you will never be able to draw properly.
These are good studies and its good that you started doing anatomy studies just cranking the basic form of the body, now I would recommend you Drop the Anime style it will not do you much good at this point, as stated manga,anime etc is based on realism. Good studies keep it up your already progressing!
YEAH, THIS TIME i WILL, I found some awsome images from handsome and pretty people,eg, the asian and I stole some of the anatomy studies in this forum, from fellah, etc.Originally Posted by Aether
Hey there, glad to see you are drawing more realistically. In the last one, with the drawing of the boy, I can tell you are paying attention to the actual contours and not what you think you see, that's great! I think an exercise that would really help you is blind contour drawing. Just put your pencil down, look at an object, and DON'T look at the paper until you have drawn the whole outline. It's not a means to an end in itself, but it will train you to draw what you see.
You are showing some major improvement. But I agree that you should do more "real-life" sketches. Even if you just sit outside and draw people walking by. It will help with the proportions. Even with the anime/manga style, it is better to have an extreme undertanding of realistic drawing, before styalizing it. Keep it up.