Kind of a weak one to start off August with, but oh well. Let's kick ass this month everyone.
I hope it shows that I put hours into this one.
Any crits on this one are very appreciated.
To all: Hope this month gets even more sp:s posted, last month was great I couldnīt even make time to make comments to all. Keep going strong
Blackhawk: well thats in the eye of the beholder, anyway you got to start off the month I hope you have more time to do sp:s this month.
it's been a few months since I've posted any SPs- I got a new job and I barely have time to get online anymore...last months SPs were great and I hope this month I can find some time to post some stuff...
Blackhawk- It may not be much now (which is arguable) but it could be the start of something pretty cool if you took it further...
Mindflaw- Don't forget that the shapes of the head are caused by the structure of the skull...it seems like you might've forgotten that in some places. Even though the shadows might be in the right place and the right shape as when you were drawing, they still may not necessarily describe that form completely accurately- thinking of your face as a 3 dimensional 'landscape' (for want of a better word) might help you out...or maybe you already know all that...
one more thing, when you draw hair, make sure you look at it...what does it look like? For example, your beard is all pretty dark in tone, even where your face is well lit. I know that when I had a beard it looked dark except when there was light on it and it looked more ginger...the hair is lighter in areas where the light shines on it...maybe someone else can explain it a little better cause I'm not doing too good a job...
anyway i hope that helps
jens- that colour adds a whole new dimension to your sp...i guess that dimension would be colour (duh) anyway it looks great
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Jens: Thanks,the depth is my biggest problem just donīt get it right, and about the eyes I have looked in the mirror again and I did do those spaces a little to wide. About the mouth I got a little mouth I have checked it a thousand times with the same result I guess Iīm the opposite to Mick Jagger mouthwise anyway. Thanks for the help
About your sp I think the gouache highlights was a nice touch that added to your sp
expat:Thanks, I know what you mean about shape just canīt make it happen. My beard is really dark (even surprised my friends when I grew the beard, my hair is much lighter). I think I captured the hair quite good, but it I guess it can be done much better. Thanks for the crits.
Blackhawk: Nice nose portrait.
Mindflaw: Looking good, I remeber some of your old SPs and this one seems to be a step further in the right direction. I would suggest to pay more attention to the symmetry of your face and features. One eye is a little droopy and the top edge of your beard on the right side of your face looks too low...
Jens: Good stuff, I like the loose paint strokes and rendering.
strych9ine: I like you style! Your right side (our left) looks a little squashed in, though. Your linequality is real nice!
jens: solid as ever. It's cool that I really don't have to check the name to see who made it..hehe. Great colorchoices! Your eyes look very much alive.
mindflaw: Looks good.If I was to crit anything else than what has been said, I guess it would be that your hair/beard shouldn't be rendered with a whole lot of lines. Don't try to draw every hair, try to look at it as lumps, sort of. If you define the shaded/darker and the light parts with a little detail, the hair would look better. I think
Blackhawk: I like it! Could do with a little more detail.. for example some indentations where the teeth go in..a crack or two.. to go with the mood in the picture, wich is really cool!
Here's one I made the other day..any crits/comments are very welcome!
pencil 4-5 hours
dcept-cool, throw a couple real hotspots in there
stretch-getting alot solider...if thats a word. Is that chest hair i see? lol
jens- you are doing some really great ones as of late, keep doing what your doing.
mindflaw- don't forget about eyelids. also, don't forget to shade the eyeball. a harsher light will help you see the forms better.
blackhawk- cool concept...i bet you just got lazy though. i can picture you, sitting at your computer thinking "ahhh....i've drawn the nose and an eye...i'll just rough in a skull and call it done"...regardless, it looks good.
Only Crit: Add a lensflare.
edit: dcept- you are right, the hair is garbage.
edit: good crit mindflaw, though IRL my nose is slanted to the side...I'm asymetrical! the mouth and nose are in roughly the correct relation. the eyes are too close to the eyebrows, and you are right about the ears and my head. i think i turned a little when i drew the one ear, and didnt turn when i drew the other. and their relation to each other is off as well...Thanks for pointing these things out!
Last edited by jetpack42; August 3rd, 2004 at 07:46 PM.
I self-published a book on the fundamentals of drawing from life.
Jetpack: thanks! There are brighter highlights in the original... my scanner kinda flattens the image, it would seem.. I'll try to get a better scan, and update the post.
My crit for you would be the hair..both the eyebrows and your your..well..hair. Don't use a whole bunch of lines.. Describe the volume/shades/highlights... Other than that, it looks real nice!
Hey guys, it's been quite a while for me. I've been a bit busy I guess. Glad to see everyone still rocking away.
Well here is my latest.
WOZ: Maybe work a little more with the shape of the cheeks?
I put in some lines you know how they works
* check out ears length.
* When I compare the ears your it shows that you have your head turned slightly to the right meaning that the inverted part of the lines at the eyes shouldnīt be the same lenght they are now the same length the if Iīm not wrong of course.
* Mouth could be right if you`re "pulling" your mouth sideways.
* Your hair if I remember right from one of your previous avatars is blonder, if so it might be useful to use a harder pencil to get the right value. Try to spend more time finding the right direction of your hair.
* Eyebrows same thing here try to find the direction of the hair it changes and try to show the shape of the scull you probably get the eyebrows more "S-shaped".
I think you got it rendered good and it seems like its a better sp than your previous sp:s
dCept: I had the same comment as jetpack about highlights about scanning this might help even if its about pencils. Itīs in the tips and tricks scanning pencil
Its seems like you changed the contrast on the assumption that lower left corner is lighter irl, then this would work scan it 72 dpi to photoshop then duplicate the image and put the new layer in multiply thus the white stays white and dark gets darker and then change opacity levels to get it like irl. Maybe you could work a little with building up subtle highlights by using kneaded rubber i htink its called in english or like they did in the old days by using soft white bread in the same manner as with kneaded.
Otherwise I cant think of anything.
Strychnine: Your are right about the eye the in my sp there shouldnt perfect symmetry since Iīm have my head turned slightly in one direction affecting it all but since it so little it doesnīt show that much. In your sp it seems like you have moved your head slightly when doing some of the features just a little but still anyway itsīa nice sp.
Oh yes and if any you find my crits to be wrong please tell me and why, good way to learn
Probably have a new sp in the end of the week keep going dudes
Last edited by Mindflaw; August 3rd, 2004 at 05:21 PM.
Found some spare time to actually get around to posting something...
I kinda rushed this one, there are quite a few problems with it but I appreciate any crits anyway
A quicky while watching TV...
Blackhawk - I wish you would have finished that. I love the smoothness and values. Keep 'em coming.
Mindflaw - I definitely agree with what Jens was proposing. Check the shapes and proportions. Also, it seems that you are in need of more values. More darks and lights. Use a more medium tone paper and then use pencils for all of the rendering and then use a light-colored medium to bring out the highlights and you will notice the depth.
Jens - Good as usual. I like the touch of colors and looseness of this one though.
strych9ine - I really like this one. It looks like it could be comic-book quality. Also, it looks like you're about to kick some ass...
dCepT - I like the idea, but I think that you really need some lighter tones and some more details.
jetpack42 - Good one, but one thing to keep in mind. Keep your strokes going in direction of the form. If you keep it going in all one direction, it kind of flattens the portrait.
Wizard of KOZ - That is badass!! The brush strokes are very nice. I need to get some lighting tips from you.
expat - I think that it is a strong drawing. My only comment is that your nose either looks out of perspective or it was broken (not trying to make fun, but without seeing you I just don't know).
Wanted to see what I'd look like when the inevitable hair loss sets in. Christ, it's gonna suck.
i did this while taking a shit...i had to crane my neck up to see in the mirror..so my view changed everytime...so thats why theres about 10 different angles on this sp..oh well...
i used a blue ballpoint pen
I wont fail now
haha...yeah shadoman, you're spot on...
actually when I was drawing it I was looking down at the mirror so I've either translated the perspective into more of a straight-on looking perspective or maybe i moved while I was drawing...i dunno.
Hey guys, guess I'll throw my mug into the ring. Here is a self portait I made for my print making class recently. Ran out of the semester, and the facilities, to really work it to its end, but I'm pretty happy with it. Don't know why I look kinda pissed, a lot of my self portraits end up that way.
"Full price for gum? That dog won't hunt Monsignor!"
I had the day off from work today and I ended up actually doing some drawing.
Here's what I came up with...
This one kinda scares me...I'm sane, really.
Probably my favourite SP so far- I was slouching when I drew it, hence the double chin.
Not sure about this one...lotsa problems but I think the mouth worked well.
dcept- it took me a while to see what it was covering your face but it is a gas mask right? It's nice and atmospheric but I think some more highlights and contrast would make it a little clearer.
INTeRN- I really like the pencil one...nice sense of form, looks pretty accurate, no real problems as far as I can see. If I had to nitpick I'd say your ears are different sizes...but then maybe that's just you!
Upstart- there's a bit of weirdness going on with your fingers...the perspective on them makes them look like they're bending backward. I do like the forearm though, feels fairly solid. The other thing is I think the hair would look a bit better if you were able to render it a bit more like the rest of the print- at the moment it kinda looks like Lego hair, big solid pieces.
shadoman- that's a nice one. It reminds me of some kind of Asian god/spirit type imagery, not sure why. The only real crit is that the eyeballs look a little flat to me- maybe because there's not nearly as much shadow on them as the surrounding areas...
that's it for now...
Messy ArtRage 1.1 painting it is the middle of a winter storm here
I was just working on my first big digital painting and i wanted to know what you guys thought. I've been a lurker for a long time, picking up tips.
miasmak: nice painterly strokes. how do you get the tone variation in your strokes to make it look like oil paints?
expat: cool expressions, but the symmetry needs to be checked and proportions are a little off
shadoman: awesome colors! it would pull together with more detail and some blending of the strokes
upstart: nice composition and pose. the value work with the hatching is less impressive when it's been defined by an outline first. work on building up values without outlines so you can decide which outlines are important to the design and which can be left out.
Expat - Good work man. I really like the second one. The strokes are really nice But I love the lighting from the third. And per your comments, I fixed the eyes and resaved the file.
miasmak - Winter, eh? I am looking forward to snow myself. I like the colors and style there.
Turbosity - Very nice, especially for a person new to digital medium. I think that overall the piece is very nice. It seems a very good likeness, without knowing what you look like. What I would strive for is keeping your stokes flowing in the direction of the form. I think that will help you out. Keep it up...
And per your comments, I would like to spend more time on more blending and details, but I will just move on and address that in my next piece. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback-
Hopefully I'll get some time to do at least one more today and try and remember your crits for that one.
Turbosity- your sp looks pretty solid and accurate. My only real problem is with the neck area. It looks like you didn't spend quite as much time defining that area and even though it's not the focal point I think it is noticable. It just looks a little flatter than the face area, which is quite well defined in comparison.
Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. Had a lot of trouble duplicating the original feel of the sketch into the etching. If I had some more time to run through a couple more grounds I probably could have worked out more of the problems.
Shadoman I like the colors and the technique, but not really sure what emotion the face is actually going for. I think the eye brows are a little too neutral for my tastes since the rest of the face is so active.
expat Thanks for the feedback. I really like your second piece, the linework and the shading really work well--I think the double chin really ties the drawing together. The first and third aren't bad, just don't seem as finished as the second.
miasmak I like the strokes and choice of pallete. The figure's (your) right shoulder bugs me a bit, but I don't think that it needs fixing really.
Turbosity Thanks for the crit, I agree with the outline crit, don't really think hatching and outlines out enough before/while I'm working. Good work on color choice and technique in your piece. The neck seems a little flat to me, maybe if you pulled some of that cooler neutral color you used on the left side (the figures right side) of the face, that would help to bring out the forms in the neck a little. Also, your right eye seems as bright as the left despite being on the shadowed side of the face--it just seems to me that that eye should be a little more subdued.
"Full price for gum? That dog won't hunt Monsignor!"
Turbosity, Artrage makes the strokes go like that. Free app from Ambient Design. Ver 1.1 just out.
Well, hello to everyone there
I've just found this website, and as all of you I've thought it's " food for the mind ". Very inspiring !
So, I'll beging to post here , and try to get better with the help of all the artists around.
There is my first post. I really don't look exactly that way, but I think it's funny.
very cool picture. the values on the face look a lot like an ink wash, which i think is what you were going for. the left arm is a little washed out, and you rely on the outline too much for the form.
Thanks for the commentaries.
It is true that I use the line a little too much. It is the comicbook influence in me that I'm trying to get rid of right now !
At least for certain works
Few comments tonight, finally found time inbetween work to get one of these done. Now to get back, good job everyone.