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C.O.W. #312. Extreme Bipolarism - VOTING!
Vote for your favourite entry! If you have submitted an entry this round please refrain from voting for yourself!
-You need to include two variants of the same species, they may be within a single illustration if you desire so, but you must include both variants
-One form must show it's high energy manic state and the other the more relaxed depressive state
-Try to also focus on the creature's body language and gestures as well as it's overall appearance, as it is a change in behaviour as much as it is a change in appearance
Last edited by Rob Powell; January 30th, 2014 at 04:42 AM.
Concept: horned floater
The males of this peculiar specie inflate themselves during mating season to fight other males by piercing their ´bubble´ with their horns. Last male in the air get´s all the females.
I paint two stong feelings of body language and gestures also two diverent types of faces.
The Draconigena goes up if there are any kind of dangers looming ahead also he put up his headcomb
to appear bigger.
Topic is closed, poll is up and new topic posted!
No cuts this week!
The turnout for COW is quite low right now. Nevertheless, great work guys! I thought I'd drop buy and give some feedback.
In essence this was the topic for this week: "The creature you are going to be designing this round will undergo extreme cases of manic depression, so extreme that it's body will undergo drastic changes in it's appearance."
With the states being..
"a hyperactive, energetic, and possibly very aggressive manic state, as well as a more relaxed, and lethargic state of depression."
There are some heavy words here. We are talking 'extreme' cases of manic depression and 'drastic' changes to appearance with the two polarities being one very energetic and agressive state and one being lethargic, which means a lack of energy and enthusiasm. Essentially something we really want to see reflected in our designs since it's so heavily emphasized.
I feel that none of you really manage to capture the brief and I'll explain why.
ded - I've seen your work here a few times and it's always cool. Your design this week is nice but the difference between its two states is not drastic enough. I don't feel that this creature fluctuates between extreme emotional states.
My interpretation of your design is that's it's a relatively small creature with a quite neutral temperament, similar to a hedgehog, with the size of a fox. It lives a quite simple life, walking around doing its thing. It can possibly become defensive if provoced, but it's not really something that happens to an extreme extent.
You have a good idea going on here but I feel that you kind of forgot the whole depression theme going on and made it's appearance change based on its environment instead of pure mania. This is logical, it's usually why animals change appearance in nature. However, the topic is doesn't focus on that.
Designwise you have a lot of interesting shapes to play around with. The version to left is actually really good for it's more depressed state. It's simple, with a withdrawn posture. I would like to see this a bit more exaggerated with it looking even more withdrawn and lethargic.
Imagine how it would feel to really be in a shitty state of life where everything just sucks. Are you curious about the world? not really. You'd probably just wish that the world slowly dissappear so you can be left alone in your misery. Try to capture that lack of life.
The design to the right works as a defensive state, but I wouldn't be able to tell that it's a highly energetic and agressive state. Use color and sharp shapes to bring that out. The stripes could show agressiveness by adding strong colors and maybe even changing the pattern of the furr. I see you added some orange to them, bring it out even more, perhaps even strong reds!
The scales on the back could be protruding even more, giving him a more spiky and agressive design, I also see you added some markings to them which is cool - bring them out more. The red tongues going out also works, again, use them to bring out the mood even more.
You're halfway there, just need to push it a bit further. All in all a nice design. I also enjoyed watching your process in the wip thread.
Stinkypanda - You've also got a good idea going on here, but I'll say the same to you as I told ded - I get the feeling your creature is changing its appearance because of a change in in its environment - in your case because of mating seasons and fighting other males over females - rather than because of mania. And it's a logic choice. The world works like that. But it doesn't really convey the brief.
As for your designs, I feel that you too are halfway there. I can definitely tell there is some kind of polarity going on, with the floating version being more red and having a more agressive and hostile posture. However, I feel it's not drastic enough.
You have a simple and rounded design - use that to show it's depressed state. Use colours you would associate with those emotions; desaturated greys, browns and blues. soft and drooping shapes. Think winter. The tree's are hanging. They look sad.
And in contrast to your rounded and softer design you can use strong vivid colors and sharp shapes to break up the softness in your more agressive design. Your creature has a lot of skin to play around with. Look at squids and chameleons for inspiration for how they change their skin depending on their mood. "How can I show energy and agressiveness with the design I have?" "how can I show lack of energy?" these are all good questions to ask again and again when designing.
Keep it up!
JB-Charakterdesign - I like that you took a more emotional approach with your design, clearly showing two different emotional states. Although I can't really tell if it's sad because of a specific event or if it's always sad until it's threatened and then switches personality.
To me it feels more like the latter. That this is a creature with a wide temperament, and that you just show us two different emotional states of the creature rather than showing us a design that is based around it being in two main states of activity - Mania and Lethargy.
I also feel that you could play around more with the shapes of the designs to show its different emotional states. Standing on hindlegs and flashing out its headcomb feels too generic. I would like to see you go more crazy with silhuette and changes in its entire physical appearance.
You also lost the aspect of color which makes it harder to convey emotion.
I hope this feedback helps you guys. I want you all to grow so I give honest feedback when I can and point out areas that need attention where I see them. In this case I mostly felt your design choices could be a better for the topic so that's where my feedback went.
The voting felt really hard since you all made a good job. In the end I decided to vote for JB-Charakterdesign. I like the fact that you played around more with emotion and that's what swayed me.
Keep up the good work all of you and I hope to see you in more COWS!
Last edited by DefiledVisions; January 31st, 2014 at 10:52 AM.
@DefiledVisions: wow thanks for the crit ! I really appreciate it. I concur with everything you said. I was struggling with showing the emotions of a creature when in general they don´t show any emotions, at least to us humans. With dogs and some other creatures as exceptions. And I should have done more studies in advance, I´m going to make my self do at least three studies from now on with every contest here.
again, thanks for the critique! really means a lot
You're welcome S-Panda (calling you stinky felt a bit rude ) yeah it's hard to convey emotion with creatures. Most often we don't have much facial expression to work with, so we have to do with gesture and bodylanguage. Looking at nature documentaries really help. Doing research for every piece is always good! if in doubt about something, look it up and learn more about it keep it up!
I know this is a bit late, but I think it's still worth mentioning. I do agree with what Defiled said, I intended for much MUCH more extreme cases of manic depression that affect both appearance and behavior...let's turn to Pokemon for a prime example with Darmanitan:
Notice all the changes that occur within it's design, colour change between red (manic) and blue (depressive), posture, eyes, mouth, etc; but yet you can still make out that this is indeed the same creature.