Black Spot already said it - you can learn about painting just as easily with cheap material as with expensive. All I'm saying is that the op doesn't have to panic about getting lists of expensive equipment. Pick up some cheap affordable materials and have fun. It's like that other thread where people were talking about fancy sketchbooks versus cheap ones. Why not learn cheap and progress to the more expensive stuff when you feel you're ready. If I can figure that out, maybe the op can too.
Trying to get them to blend was like getting blood out of a stone.
Last edited by Candra H; November 3rd, 2012 at 09:22 AM.
beginning painters to paint with inferior paints. You will not be learning about proper application as you are depriving yourself from using real paints.
Argue all you want (though I don't know why) but cheap paints are detrimental to learning about using oils.
You cannot compare getting proper oil painting equipment to getting a sketchbook. That's apples and oranges. Sketching with a pencil is just
that, sketching. Painting with oils is something else altogether. Hence why you cant paint with oils in a sketchbook.
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I'm sorry I put a spanner in the works. I did have to get more white as any boxed set will never have enough. While it wasn't easy stuff to paint with, it was quite fun working out how to get to look like how I wanted (I'm a bit cussed like that) and it was the first painting I'd done in 30 years.
Bit like my husband can make an out of key piano sound okay.
This picture I know to have been painted using system 3 acrylics - It's by fellow ROI member John Sprakes and it's the only paint I ever see surrounding his palette (a crappy bit of any old card found lying around) in the studio
My view regarding cheaper materials:
A fine athelete would run damn fast in cheap trainers, but the best spikes in the buisness may be the difference between first and second.
Having said that, Turner could use his spit, a finger and dirt applied to the back of an envelope to produce a fragment of heaven.
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From Gegarin's point of view
Buy the best materials and equipment you can afford. I would eat top ramen for a couple of months after I ordered art supplies, when I was starting out. Its a matter of priorities, I didn't have tv or cable but I bought good paints and equipment back then and I was living on my own supporting myself. I still use Winsor and never buy Old Holland or Williamsburg paint because I can't afford it (it would cut into my wine budget).
I have a Cotman set too but it's not the field set that dpaint has.
Just to throw something in the mix for paints. Oil paints you want the best grade possible. Cheaper grades also mess with color mixing which can be a big nightmare.
Watercolors it can depend. Frazetta was using Mickey Mouse paints. I find water more important. However for some colors where you don't want it so "jewel" like you do want to get better pigments. What matters most in watercolor is paper.
Also I feel people on the getting gift boxes of art supplies. Too often I have well meaning relatives or people who know I draw give me the stuff and I want to scream. I can...deal with Reeves watercolors and some of these cheap ass watercolor paints, but maaaan, please just give me a gift certificate to the art store (that isn't Jo Anne's or Micheals) instead of getting those sets....please
no more mannikins either!
Nothing will beat tiny colored pencils! (I have these but in a black case)
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