Spartan Camp #239 - 50 gestures + Optional "Folds Study"
The aim is to produce 50 gestures by Sunday the 7th of October.
- The gestures can be of anything, human, animal, cavorting capybaras.... You can draw full figures, but you can also go for heads, arms, eyes, or anything specific. All media can be used, both digital or traditional. Coloured or black/white. Quick scribbles or long studies. Imagination or referenced. Clothed or nude. Specifics are up to you!
- In addition to this, participants can choose to do an Optional "Folds Study", in any medium.
Additional notes on this weeks’ Optional Study:
We're doing a small series of studies on clothing. We'll do folds this week, followed up by a clothed figure study next week.
For the optional study this week, focus on folds and how to draw them. You can do so by simply studying some guides (see reference), study reference images, or by setting up a small still-life using some clothes or fabric.
As you may see in the reference below, different types of folds can be distinguished. The way in which cloth is piled, hangs, or is supported determines the shape of these folds to a large extent!
First two sources are solid, the last two contain a list of guides. I haven't gotten around checking them all but I suspect they should contain some decent info as well.
Link 1 : Folding types and fundamentals.
Link 2 : Drapery types and fundamentals again (PDF). (note: you can change the "drapery1.pdf" to "drapery2.pdf" and soforth for the subsequent pages)
Link 3 : Various guides on clothing and folds.
Link 4 : More guides!
Upcoming optional studies
Clothed Figure Study
As always- reference advised, not obligatory. Colour, medium, time frame, any specifics are up to you! Good luck and have fun! And feel free to ask questions!
50 poses is a challenge, but don't hurry or stress yourself reaching it! Focus on drawing, as practising is the main goal of this exercise.
Criticizing each other is highly encouraged!! Share constructive criticism, reference images and resources!! Let's help each other get better!
Come on soldiers! Flex those muscles!!
HALL OF FAME - SPARTAN CAMP #238
Last edited by Anthis; October 6th, 2012 at 04:56 PM. Reason: Added reference
Sounds fun. I'm up for the challenge.
If other people are looking for references, I am using http://characterdesigns.com/index.ph...pcomingArtists, they have a cool photoset with classic sculptures. It's great to see the contrast on complicated drapery.
SmallPolly: That's looking great! Looks like you used your own hand? Definitely a good idea to include in the "optionals"
Loving the hands SmallPoly. Nice style too, with the textures and colours.
Hamorhage I'm so envious of your poses! How long does each one take? They look fast but perfect (if that makes sense lol).
Here's what I've done so far this week. Will get some clothing folds drawn next.
Hamorhage: Thanks! You're right - it's my own hand. I'm using a simple setup with a posable lamp and mirror. On yours, I love the gestural work; it has nice clean lines and feels very fluid; also, good line rhythm. The rendered study is looking a bit muddy - I'd recommend using more opaque brushes and saving most of the transparency for blending. It feels like it lacks the confidence of your gestures. You may find it helpful to establish your tonal range earlier on then work in the midtones afterward.
Animare: Thanks to you too. Your gestures are looking pretty good for the most part. Some of the proportions are off a bit so watch that and the foreshortening, such as on #31 and #48.
Last edited by SmallPoly; October 3rd, 2012 at 02:20 PM.
animare: Those ones I did were 60 seconds. But I don't see why you are envious, your poses like great! It's funny to see you need to warm up first, poses 1-9 are a bit rough and then you can see the quality coming on
SmallPoly Really skillful studies! With some small exceptions here and there, how much time do you take for each? I took your advice for todays' tonal/cloth study and just used opaque brushes. It definitely forces me to think differently and I think it might speed up my process if I keep practicing. Yesterdays one I still did in the old fashion, I've been home with a flu and fever so I'm not really as concentrated as usual, but glad I squeezed in some drawing anyway
First poses are 30 secs, second poses 60 seconds (tried a different approach to these), then 2 tonals each about 20 mins.
Last edited by Hamorhage; October 3rd, 2012 at 08:24 PM.
I'm starting to feel like I'm spamming this place Here are todays studies:
20 minute page from a book I bought about 9 years ago "How to draw Manga: Dressing your character in Casual Wear". It's a pretty useless book, but good for reference studies:
And then another tonal from a random google image:
I can't say I'd feel confident to draw fold from memory, so obviously I either need to do more reference studies, or maybe try a different approach to this?
Thanks! There are definitely a few duds in the bunch, but it feels like I'm improving. Most of these are 5-10 minutes each, but the more rendered ones are probably closer to 20 minutes.
Your newer tonal stuff looks much more solid and clean. Great job there. Nice job on the sheer fabric as well. Translucent materials have been a big struggling point in the past for me. It still kicks my ass.
I'll spam things up here as well - did another batch this morning:
Flashback: Looking pretty good in general, though you should avoid petting your lines. Linework tends to look a lot better when things are done in individual confident strokes.
Two more sets this morning:
Edit: and some more after work
Last edited by SmallPoly; October 6th, 2012 at 05:12 AM.
Alright! Get in shape Spartans, it's weekend so more time to draw
SmallPoly : That is an impressive workout man. You are very dedicated cramming in these studies on a daily basis, do you still have time for any personal work? What I would like to see is a sheet of hands from memory, just to see if your brain is actually memorizing these studies
flashback: I'll echo what poly says, you seem to have confidence in your lines, but loses it's dynamic by going over those lines. Don't forget these 60 seconds leave room for experimentation and failure. I don't think anybody here will put them in their portfolio, so be free and work on your lines simplicity. If you only need to draw each line only once you get more time to flesh out detail
Today I did some untimed posemaniac sketches, though I don't think they would be longer then 60-90 seconds. Afterwards I created a new layer in PS, and sketched on top of these poses. I will definitely do this more often, but maybe keep an anatomy book next to me to help me flesh out things that are unclear.
Afterwards I did a quick tonal keeping POly's tips in mind, an opaque brush...yikes, it's difficult but more pleasing results so far.
Thanks guys for the comments.
Managed to do a couple of clothing/folds studies. They turned out harder than I thought they would be. I think I will do some in greyscale.
Awesome idea Hamorhage to sketch on top. Your tonal stuff has improved fast although I think the body proportions aren't as strong as when you start with lines.
Smallpoly So many hands, fantastic! And you can really see the improvement from the first set you posted to the recent ones. I like Hamorhage's suggestion of trying some from memory.
Very impressive work!
Here's my batch. Think I was a bit absent-minded, not too happy with my own figures and the linework in general.
Scans 1 through 5 from reference. (mixture of characterdesigns.com and the links provided by surus during last round)
9 and 10 are imagination folds, though with lots of help from the reference links.
You guys are all amazing.
I just started a new programming job this week; drawing has fallen way, way behind this week. I'm afraid this is all I've got to show for myself-- focusing on the male figure because that's where I need practice.
Gah! Men! Your... square but not bodies! Your curves that aren't actually curves! Your straight lines that aren't actually straight lines! /falls over
Some folds from my sketchbook.
Hamorhage: Thanks! I did a few from imagination in one of the sets from the weekend and it's still a big struggle to get one with all the right details. Doing the robot hand ones were a lot easier and seemed like it was helping with internalizing things. It feels like the close-up ones help a lot too. No time for personal work while I've been doing this stuff, so I'm going to need to slow down a bit when I finish.
Animare: I have noticed a lot of improvement too compared to my first set. Those cloth studies look great btw.
Did a metric crapton more over the weekend:
Animare: absolutely fantastic study of those folds! You're one talented artist! I visited your facebook page which is full of amazing artwork, but you picked one of the weakest as a cover image. It's going to put people off faving your page. Change your cover art to one of your animal drawings, they look stunning.
Anthis: You might think you had an off day but those still look great. Enjoy looking at your figure studies!
Eliza: Haha, it is true that guys sometimes require a different approach to draw then woman, personally I prefer dtrawing female figures too for the reasons you mentioned. You can keep a nice curvy line. I remember when I was in college we had this pretty big model, but she was such a joy to draw. No hard edges, just nice curves!
Smallpoly: I presume the first 2 are from imagination? Especially the first batch look off in comparison to the rest, really amazing the work you put in to this. You've got some brilliant results from it! Lovely drawings!
Here's a quick one from memory, using the robot hand thing for the initial construction. I think it came out decently realistic, but:
- the internal thumb bone starts too high
- the bent finger should be pulling the adjacent ones down a little
- the webbing between the fingers should be highest on the palmar side
- pinky is too long
It seems to be sticking! Really thats quite a good sketch, much better than I would be able to do right now. And the best thing is that you just critted yourself
I think it'd be ambitious to want to draw hands perfect from memory after a weeks' study, but certainly proven that intense study gets progress FAST!
Oh and your tips on painting with solids has even made my personal work better I think (http://oneminutestudios.blogspot.ie/...arrghhhhh.html).
Here's todays posemaniacs: