If someone made a social network that compared art (one piece beside another) and ranked it. Like with user profiles and user uploaded art. I wonder if people would use it?
It would be disastrous.
Think about your audience, their personal tastes, feelings involved, etc.
it would end...badly.
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really? interesting response.
Not much else I can add that Omen and dpaint have not said already.
That example you have basically shows what a flawed idea this would be.
You think all types of artists would opt not to do this testing with their art?
If you're going to create an art social network, at least make it helpful to someone.
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I'm trying to figure out what would be the point of this to be honest.
Oh god, it would be like the worst of DeviantArt mated with the worst of Facebook and all of MySpace in a hideous threesome and spawned a mutant social network... D:
You KNOW what would happen. People would gang up with their friends and make endless alternate accounts to push their own ratings up and push their high school rival's ratings down in a huge ugly teen popularity mud fight. Eventually the whole site would drown in its own drama as the trolls move in to feed...
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People would use it. But I think I have to agree with the Bad Idea camp. This would be like when you were little and you and a cousin each took drawings to your mothers and asked them to choose which they liked best.
There must be a better solution than the current art sharing social networks: dribbble, behance, deviantart. If you could have an art social network do anything what would you want it to do that is different?
I would actually like DA system more if their "more popular" page actually displayed what was more popular instead of trying to cherry pick from each medium.
cghub seems to be able to rank them just fine.
So perhaps it's a fear of the unknown if we fear ranking art (our own art). Isn't it better to know what the world thinks? However the method (as displayed on op) may be selective, it is actually more implicit than a Like, Favorite, or views, and perhaps more true to what a consumer may buy (i.e. shirt graphics, or designs, or a painting). I think it isn't necessarily correct to assume the art consumer unintelligent and witless.
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And then if you were a pretty okay artist, but your art constantly got accidentally constantly compared with pro art (assuming the images are randomized to pairs) and it would end just getting lots of negative/non-votes, or the other way around you're a pretty crappy artist but your art got constantly paired with even crappier art but you'd still get votes... what would that really even tell about the artist? Probably not that their art is good or bad or how many people actually liked it, so I'd say in terms of "testing" the art, it would be pretty pointless.
Unless these images are also categorized to be compared with those of similar skill level but seriously not even that would help this sort of thing and would just take it further from testing the art.
And that reminds of this post: http://muddycolors.blogspot.fi/2012/06/mediocrity.html like would a high rank in the site actually tell much about the quality of the image posted?
1. Sex, fan art, and cute out-ranks everything else, regardless of quality...
2. People get their friends to mass-vote on their submissions, so the person with the biggest pool of "friends" automatically outranks anyone with fewer friends, regardless of the quality of submissions... (Happens in popularity-vote contests ALL. THE. TIME. Even on the community activities here, I've seen people urge all their offsite FB and DA friends to come vote on their entries, and behold, those entries suddenly get a mysterious flood of votes...)
3. People offer bribes for votes ("Vote for me and I'll draw you fanart!") This also happens a lot in popularity-vote contests...
4. People make tons of alt accounts and vote for themselves...
5. People invariably vote for their friends, regardless of the quality of the work...
6. And vice-versa, if down-voting is allowed, people vote against/urge their friends to vote against individuals who they personally don't like, regardless of the quality of the work...
7. And no matter what, you'll get floods of teenagers with typical teenage taste skewing the results toward general tackiness.
That's what they used to do, it didn't work either. What you got was 99% fanart of the top five fandoms from the 10 most popular artists all the time. If you didn't particularly care for those artists and their fanart, it made the front page dead useless.I would actually like DA system more if their "more popular" page actually displayed what was more popular instead of trying to cherry pick from each medium.
It's still dead useless, but that's largely because people have figured out how to abuse the current system to get their not-so-popular fanart on the front page...
I'm not sure if there's a way to make it really work unless people can define elaborate filters to suit their own tastes, or unless a group of intelligent people curates a selection of "the best" (which requires people and time.)
Eventually this was fixed (and now they count the popularity from favorites I think) but during that time basically anything could be "popular".
Yeah again, someone tell me the purpose of this?
And with thousands of images we'd then be likely to have the problem I mentioned in my previous comments, that the statistics would be skewed by the randomizer and any votes or non-votes wouldn't tell anything.
Like Arshes said, what's the purpose? What are the artists supposed to take from the votes they get or don't get?
Good feedback, thanks guys. What about this same idea only with photography? or maybe just as a general social network? The question has come up, whats the purpose. The purpose would be a sense on random discovery of images people upload to the network and to capture peoples opinions/preferences of the images as they explore.
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