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Well, hopefully your visit went well and that you're feeling better now. ^_^
Desmond: I don't think the shading is too dark on the face - I think you could actually get darker in a few places to help sell the different planes of the face. Skull is a bit misshapen. (Jaw line, mainly.) Do some more portraits, also look up a reference for the various planes of the face (such as this or this) -- it'll help you think of how light will hit the forms and help you to render them accordingly. Definitely very helpful when doing portraiture/construction. Hair and clothes came out fairly decently. Good job.
I think I like the dog piece best. (Nice job on that one - especially in the nose/mouth area. Some nice hatching in there.)
Tried to look up the last one and came up with this page. I have no idea what the hell this is. Tried to make sense of the page - even more confused. XD Is there a better site I should be checking out for info?
Also, if you're looking to pick up some Bridgman cheap, I got all my books of of ebay for practically nothing and in mint condition. Might be worth checking out.
About the scp thing sorry about that I would have explained it but I was getting really tired XD
SCP is basically a website where people upload theyre ideas and pages for weird creations and monsters.
I think it started out as just a website for creations at first but over time it gradually got more popular and people started making theyre own story lines and videos and theyres also a few games which is were I found it.
The main story behind scp though is that theyre these giant underground prisons holding these things and they send death row inmates into test them without telling them what theyre there for, if they survive one month they get to go free.
173 is an scp very similair to the weeping angels from doctor who in that if you blink, turn away or close your eyes it starts getting closer to you and eventually snaps your neck.
ive been really getting into the website and game recently so youre probbly gonna see me drawing alot more of them.
Completely unrelated but which bridgeman books do you think I should pick up.
Ah! That makes sense now. XD
Draw whatever catches your imagination and makes you want to sketch. For me, right now I'm on a Sherlock kick. Before that it was Star Trek. It doesn't always matter what you're drawing as long as it keeps you doing it, so feel free to sketch what makes you happy -- just remember to temper the fun stuff with actual studies periodically (i.e. - anatomy/life studies/etc.) and you're fine. ^_^
I would recommend getting 'Constructive Anatomy' and 'The Human Machine' at the very least for Bridgman. (They're my go-to's.) 'Life Drawing' would be next on the list importance-wise and then he also has separate books for heads and one for hands that are helpful, but that information is also touched on in the other books so they're not totally crucial.
would of updated yesterday or the day before but most of the things I did yesterday turned out horrible and the day before I was only working on the coke can digital picture.
Got some really good stuff done today
First a few bad stuff though first I did this yesterday and it didnt turn out that well, quite frankly I got a bit pissed with it and rushed it a bit.
A few new feet drawings I could'nt really get them right though.
and in my opinion a really good drawing of Miguel Prado from Dexter although the scan ruins the shading quite a bit.
And a new scp drawing
Oh and ive had to give up on the coke can I would of worked on it for as long as it took, but although ive tried to keep it and the lamp as still as possible i went back to it to work more and the shading had changed probbly because the light before had come slightly through my curtains, but I have to do it on my desk with all of my other stuff so I would'nt of been able to keep everything the same long enough to finish it shame to I was getting really into it.
Heres how far I got with it if your wondering.
Not got much done today and its pretty bad, I was also gonna do a still life but I left it to late, ive got it all set up though so im gonna do it tommorow.
Oh and I was gonna try doing a colour study of an apple but sai's trial period has run out so im gonna have to wait a month till my birthday.
trying out drawing a few hairstyles.
And since I have no other books at the moment im gonna start reading loomis's heads book again I wasnt really paying attention to much of it the first time so im gonna restart it from the beggining.
The hair studies look pretty good.
Miguel Prado portrait's portrait has the features placed a bit oddly. (Mostly towards the bottom of nose / mouth area. The bottom of the nose is placed a bit too low and it's throwing off the position of the mouth. It's kind of sitting in the area the chin should be.) Collar/neck & hair doesn't look too shabby, though. Nice jobs there. Keep doing structure studies and portraits -- placement will get better/easier the more used to doing it you get.
When I'm working on a longer-term life study, I always back it up with a picture in case something changes. (Never hurts to snap a quick picture to have for just such instances. It can always be something to work from, too, if you have to move your still life or can't continue from life for whatever reason.)
Keep studying structure/anatomy. It's going to help you the most out of everything, I think. Have you ordered the Bridgman books yet? If you haven't done that yet, you should check out your local library -- most of them seem to have a fair assortment of his stuff (amongst others). Couldn't hurt to check and see what they've got.
Nice updates one thing about changing light...it can be a very good in terms of understanding. While your painting, we are orbiting the sun, shadows and colours change. As you have observed. While I was in college we did an all day exercise of painting something outside. And as the light and shadows change, we were forced to correct this as it became apparent. I would suggest doing a similar exercise. When the light changes, change your image to suit. Erase and work over. It can be easier done with charcoal. It will greatly improve your understanding in light and shade.
However, just a suggestion. I hope it makes sense. I'm replying on my phone. Keep up your hard work. You're improving!!!
Riley Stark:Kinda feel like a bit of an idiot now for not thinking of taking a photo of it (not that it would have mattered because my sai trial ended the next day)
still il have to try and remember that for next time thanks.
Damien Levs: I nteresting idea ill definitiely try it once the friggin sun remembers england exists, I think the main problem with the coke can though is that being metal it was reflective and if I moved something slightly near it it must have changed the look of it.
Big update today though I don't really like much of it but the loomis stuff turned out good, ive also managed to order constructive anatomy of ebay, it will probbly be the last book I can get for a while though my mom hasnt got much money on ebay at the moment so I just barely got away with getting the book.
A still life I did early in the morning while I think the shading turned out okay I don't really like how I set it up so im gonna do another one with the same fruit tommorow.
Got jealous of Damien's ellipses so im trying to get better at them so far its turned out crap but im gonna start trying to do them everyday.
As well as the ellipses im also gonna start doing gesture drawings eveery day or two again theyre good warmups and I get really bad at them if I go a while without doing them.
Started drawing while watching a fistful of dynamite, I find it awkward to draw on my lap so my pictures always sem ot turn out really bad when im doing it but I just thought up the most obvious idea of just watching them on pc where its comfy so im gonna try this again tommorow.
And a bit of loomis i sorta rushed the last two as time ws getting on though.
Elipses are surprisingly hard, actually. I have trouble doing them, too, sometimes. XD
Cool - glad to hear you're getting Constructive Anatomy. (Great book.) His wording can be a bit obtuse at times, but you get used to it. The drawings are awesome.
Not too much to say.. Just keep plugging away.
Really only got a page to show today I got really busy having to do other stuff and when I did have the chance to draw I could'nt concentrate, I got a bit more loomis work done though.
You'll see improvement in no time doing studies like that!
Just keep plugging away at those face and ellipse studies.
Just a small update
When you get your Bridgman book, start trying to study the anatomy of the foot. (Since you keep drawing them, it'd be a good lesson to link life studies and anatomy studies together and see if you can really start applying structure to the forms. Why does the foot curve in certain places - are the shapes caused by bone or muscle? How does the ankle relate to the rest of the foot/leg? How do the tendons attach to the toes? Etc.)
Keep doing cups, too. They're a great way to work on perspective with simple shapes.
Riley Stark: Ive got the book now so ill get straight to the feet, thanks
This is stuff from yesterday which I didnt get the chance to upload.
Cups, Loomis and some drawings while I was watching A fistful of Dyanmite again
Watch your proportions on the faces -- you have a tendency to make your noses too long and it throws off the lower half of the faces a bit. (You usually seem to compensate by pushing the mouth further down into the chin area, making the chins/jaw line thinner as a result.) The length for the nose is generally around the same distance as it is from corner to corner of one of the eyes. (More or less.. everyone's a bit different and some people do have longer/shorter noses, but it's a good guideline.) You seem to be averaging around an eye and a half for nose length. Shorten it up a bit and you'll be cookin' with gas. ^_^
Some nice shading going on some of these. Keep it up!
Just the things ive been working on the last couple of days.
Started drawing from bridgeman as well.
Riley Stark: Yeah im really enjoying his drawings I like the loose feel to them alot, as expected though his wording just loses me I can barely understand him half the time but I don't think thats too much of a problem because I think you can learn more from his drawings.
This is pretty much just the big feet update XD
I tried to also do a still life of a few game controllers but I remembered halfway how crap I am at drawing them and I just could'nt get it right so I stopped, im definitiely gonna retry drawing them though at some point. (I mainly have problems with the details like the buttons and just trying to get the curves right)
I feel like im running out of ideas and things to draw for still-lifes in general though.
Last edited by triggerpigking; July 12th, 2012 at 06:16 PM.
You can always redraw things you have drawn before in a different pose or with different lighting. Or maybe take it to a different room. Draw stuff outside, draw people, draw landscapes. Put objects you usually dont put together, together. Draw something transperant and try drawing objects behind it. etc etc etc
Oh yea and your stuff is looking good so far.
Here is my Sketchbook:http://conceptart.org/forums/showthr...93#post3491593
Life drawing & Still Life thread:http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...97#post3498997
If you comment on my art and i am curious about your critique and want to learn more. I will ask you questions bluntly and directly.
Thanks for the encouragement guys
Pretty much just the normal again.
I have a few pieces ive been wanting to do (one's an imagination piece and ones a painting) but I need a longer ruler for measuring the painting and im trying to get a few refrence pictures for the imagination piece.
Ahhh your Bridgeman studies are looking great.
Also your controller drawing is improving. Your starting to understand the 3D element of the controllers. Just keep on studying more and more Bridgeman and I think you'll be golden on anatomy for a bit.
I've actually learner that it's really useful to do a half page of studies then take what you've learner by applying it to some imagination pieces. Try it sometime.
Watch the proportions on your faces. The inner corner of the eyes generally start in line with the outside edge of the nostrils. The inner corners of the eyes also are usually about a full width of an eye apart. (Your eyes are too close together.)
You've made some really great progress! try working on your ellipses though, use your elbow to draw instead of your hand, your hand is very limited in movement, using your elbow will give you confident lines and ellipses/circles
try filling up a page or two of ellipses, circles, and lines using the advice i gave you, after you've drawn the ellipses and circles draw a cross hair in the middle to see if its a perfect ellipse/ circle or not
i left an example below for the lines make 2 dots than see if you can make a straight line in one stroke, you dont have to do it of course its just a suggestion
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IsaacEs: I actually have been doing that a lot actually although I havent been posting it I try to 30 mins of it as a warm up each day I didnt think to put a cross-hair in the middle though so thanks.
Self portrait I did I had to draw this while using a pretty small mirror so I had to sit back on my chair which is why theres a few problems with this (the right eye is smaller than the left ).
Still im gonna start trying to draw 1 of these each day.
Few eye drawings one side was copied and the other side is mostly from imagination.
Ive also started on the pencil outline of that painting I mentioned ,I didnt find a ruler so I had to settle on using a tape measurer.
I think if you keep going with the Bridgeman you'll see results very quickly. I can already see massive improvement!
Just keep following your path. Oh! Try those ellipses above; you'll notice your cups looking more realistic as you do those.
Great then! But yeah drawing the cross hairs will help determine how close youre getting to perfect, also try hovering above the page in a circular motion before actually putting the pencil on the paper if it helps to make a more confident a perfect circle all in all youre on good ways
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