Why tere is no photography section on te forum? Don't you think photography is art?
I'm complaining because i haven't found any forum about photography as an art, just god damn pictures of sunsets and over processed portraits everywhere.
well you see, conceptart is a concept art site...
nnnnooooooottttttt aaaaaaaggggggaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnnnn! someone find that thread link.
My SketchBook http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=139784
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=192127"Everything must serve the idea. The means used to convey the idea should be the simplest and clear. Just what is required. No extra images. To me this is a universal principle of art. Saying as much as possible with a minimum of means."-John Huston, Director
I also demand a section for the culinary arts!
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Damn...dpaint beat me to it...verbatim. It is craft. Yes, the product is visual, yes it is creative, but the product does not involve hand skills, nor interpretation. 100 cameras, set the same and pointed at the same subject will produce 100 identical images.
And yeah, just MHO.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/fo...?topic=59403.0 interesting. See the links posted.
So forget 100 cameras...take two photographers - same cameras, same settings, same subject = same image. Two artists - same equipment, same media, same subject = very different expressions. There are other differences of course, the main one being time. It takes time to draw, paint, analyze, interpret...this is different than a 60th of a second.
Maybe that's setting up a straw man to make my point...in reality you don't get two photographers setting things up identically...I realize this, and I'm not trying to diminish photogrphy in any way, I just think it falls under a different heading than art...or at least is a unique art different than what people generally call "art".
That's just how I see it. Maybe it puts too fine a point on the "is it art" question...IDK? Just my opinion and where I make a distinction.
I used to do the accounts of an internationally known advertising photographer and while I was there doing my stuff, the concept of the picture came through by fax (no internet in those days). It was crude and drawn like a child. He took it, got the props made to his specifications, lit the stuff and a month later it was on a load of bill boards. He got paid about £40K a photo plus expenses. The time and care he would take for every shot was unbelievable. He was hired because he could make a vision reality.
I'm going to go with Dpaints koolaid comment. This isn't something you can usually convince someone of. People hold different views.
To me it holds much of the same elements, composition, lighting, color, perspective etc etc. It's just not as free in the sense you can freely edit your environment. You can't move a tree from here and place it over here without changing your angle. You don't as much 'create' as capture.
I think photography is art, some think it's not art...oh well. The world goes on.
Developing and printing your own film is such an interesting thing to learn about..all that splashing in chemical baths in darkened rooms, little timer gadgets, contact sheets, shouting obscenity laden threats at people when you hear the door handle turning..
Personally, I feel photography is just as artistic as painting. Yeah, not everyone with a camera makes art, per se, but the same is true of people with a pencil or brush- the tool doesn't make the art, the person controlling it does.
But that said, its very possible that its my view of "crafts" that is overly narrow, and not your view of "art."
Trying to figure out whether something is art or not, before knowing if there is a consensus about what defines art usually makes my head want to explode.
Also, I always want to ask "what kind of art?"