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I really did promise to be more frequent. I don't really have much to offer, but i do have one new drawing i made on my phone. And one abit older-also phone (green)...I guess i feel the need to have something concrete.
I found this neat little artist (music), called Sky Ferreira, and i really like her tone, as well as her songs. One in specific has this kind of mood and melody that makes me think, it might be more bearable to try to draw while im listening to it. I'm going to try, if i can't i atleast have a few old sketchbook pages i did months ago, but , didn't upload. I've been really off my game for a while now, as well as very unfocused.I've started to loose my connection to street culture as well. Seclusion??I really don't know, but i know this- I have this increasing feeling of desperate want.
a quick sketch from imagination. I wonder if i should've made her pretty, i never can decide if i do too much, or too little. Feeling a tad less rusty on bodies now.
Wanted to use, some ugly and kind-of-in-ur-face colours. You know, the kind of color mixing you sometimes (bordering on often) see in abstract painting, which make you squint and go= AGH, too hard on the eyes.
I abused the pen tool more than i usually do, and i abuse it for every single edge, always, in my regular stuff.
Also, thank god for sky ferreira's music making this bearable. I'll do something realistic next time-ill prolly continue with the painting of the woman with red haired at the bottom of the previous page. No name for it yet.
*edit* just going to remove the closeup, since theres no real detail on it-and i really think the colors are jarring and i feel bad for everyon having to stare at these abstract colors twice, when i failed miserably at making them look decent, i'd honestly delete the other, but-its a body shot so...i guess its okay, since i spend alot of time just sketching faces.
Last edited by LoudLikeNature; February 19th, 2013 at 03:44 AM. Reason: removing closeup.
Woke up earlyy. Way too early. want a nap.
And decided to finish one of my many unfinished stuff, mostly because i felt like the little challenge yesterday in unappealing colours came out, well, it wasnt as great as i wanted it to be, let's just say that.
Tried to sneak in a litttle faked proffesio....na..lity?
Want to add a moon, continue with the roses, and add some shine to some more of em. After that i can call it quits on that one.
*edit* Thought it was lame just having such a small update so imma put, my newest painting's update (the only one that isnt old by mooooonths). I erased the arms seen previously,cause i have no idea where the pose is going, really. Directionally challenged. Umm, will, WT/S soul for directional help.
Imma just pretend its finished, even though there's much spotty brushwork on the flowers.
I flipped it,thought it would be easier to see it in a coherent way that way, since we usually look from left to right...dont we? I actually don't know, i just assume because of manga vs comic reading direction.
I hate that i always have adjust the colours a bit when i'm done, always slightly less saturated upon upload. *edit* and now its a pinch too saturated. Imma just not give an eff you see kay
Last edited by LoudLikeNature; February 19th, 2013 at 12:51 AM.
I tried not to use titanium white, since its too easy to give illusion of 3d shape that way.
mhm,used mixer brushes alot more than ever. I usually use them as textures, along with dissolve.
It was like oil painting, so i had fun for the first time in months.
said i was going to upload some month old sketches. Tried a bit more comic book style appeal for the big face.
So that's what you meant by realistic style. This looks nice, but I don't think it something that would fit me. I think you got characters already down, they look really good, but how about focusing on some backgrounds next and adding emotions through gestures? You could make much better pieces this way, I think.
Oh, hii again! I was/am thinking of doing background but im a huge scaredy cat, my confidence is really low. I think i need to work on my imagination, as well as thinking about what to draw before i draw-that way i'd get thought out gestures, which i dont have at all right now. I'm so used to laying down colors and seeing a shape take form that i dont have much storytelling in my gestures, which is shameful. But, umm, thank you tons, i'll practice and hopefully my next painting will have some storytelling in the body movement. I'll also try, really,really harder at making myself do a background. I'll try a pen sketch, that way i wont be too afraid.Mhm, thank you tho, it really means alot to me to hear this stuff.
You shouldn't be scared. You got good with this you can good with other things too. There is one great manga book called "Sketching Manga Style" That tells some cool stuff about emotions expressed trough face, gestures, hands, lightning, perspective, props. There are also some emotion charts on net. But of course it's not that easy, even having some knowledge I can't still use it (but one day I will). There could be other books about more realistic styles, but i don't know any sadly. Maybe some other people will know, before they eat me for recommending manga book.
at the very least. Quick doodle, and it sucks. How do you even learn to do this??
Hey thanks for the advice in my sketchbook i appreciate it a lot, u have some cool stuff goin on here keep it up
You can learn to do this by doing studies of landscape photos. You could also do some sketching outside. Remember that perspective is vital.
Seriously drawing from your imagination is important but don't forget about studies! That's where you'll learn the basics which you can later apply to your imagination stuff. Studying photos and real life will help you with faces, backgrounds, animals, whatever you need Take things one step at a time.
Don't give up, you're doing great.
I can really see your improvement through this thread. It's great.
You should try to be more confident in your work, be bold and it will transfer onto the artwork. I also agree with everyone about studies, they're very important and no one can ever do enough studies, even the greats do them all the time.
I'll be back to check up, I can't wait to see what you do next
@freshfool, thank you. It's nothing really, i like helping when i can. It's what we are here to do.
@jondawo, got it, landscape studies then. Makes kind of sense. I actually saw this earlier in the morning, but i felt like it'd be rude to post a reply without anything to show for encouragement received from you all.
@pastasauca, (hehe i like the name,it's droll) i actually used to have more confidence, but the years have pretty much washed it away. I have a pretty complicated family situation with ptsd involved. And that's all i'll say for that matter.
Umm,here's my study. I took inspiration from my favorite artist, Arnold Böcklin- the isle of the dead guy, well that's what he's most famous for anyways it seems.
Mixer brush Dry was a saviour for the edges along with pencil. I'm abit down that i've kind of failed on the study so far. The colours are so off, because i thought they wouldnt show on the small painting so i had to exagerate, but that's only because im not skilled enough to bring forth the detail without stronger hues. mmm.
Ps. anyone know how to subscribe to threads, im pretty sure i don't know, or forgot.
By oversaturating the distant colours you've actually created a nice sense of space where the shadow falls across the river. If you had defined the rocks at the back more I think it would have worked quite well as a picture.
However, for the purposes of the study you needn't worry about it not reading. An image will always read as long as the values and colours are correct (values being most important).
Overall, I wouldn't say you failed the study in it's entirety. You captured the texture of the rocks very nicely where you put in the detail. I think if you spend a little more time on the next image you can achieve something you'll be happy with.
So yeah, watch out for the values and don't over-saturate when it isn't required (although it did work out quite nicely in this one)
P.S. you can subscribe by clicking Thread Tools at the top of the page, under the search bar.
It doesn't look bad for first try. Just probably take time to render it better. I started those landscapes recently too and found some videos on YouTube about digital painting from Shaddy Safadi. Also jondawo advice sounds good.
@Jondawo, thank you! Now i can finally sub to threads. I see your point, now that you mention it. Thaks a bunches, umm, imma keep working on it-'cause i don't wanna let you all down. I should finish it tomorrow, since i'll be quite busy today.
@Setherial, thank you. I'm glad that i've managed to capture your intereset, i'll try my hardest to keep it
@MadGrav, you think so? Yes, definitely going to continue it. I see, i'll look him/her up next time. I'm sure all these advices will help a ton~~
Here's a sketch from this morning. I liked the hair color, and i wanted to try Anime style shading, like the ones VanillaWare uses ( game studio).I used a reference, i'll upload it without the ref pic imposed on my deviantart-obviously bigger.
Can't force myself to continue the grand canyon study, i think i chose a subject too hard for me accomplish. Umm, here's the finished version- Kind of vacation card like
It's better but the shapes of the rock formations need more definition. They're still kind of blurry.
Also, I understand how it is. I tend to get burned out on studies very quickly too Sometimes it's better to start a new one rather than continue an old one.
A general tip: The further things are away from the viewer, the lighter they are in value and the less contrast they have. This is called atmospheric perspective. You can show atmospheric perspective by adding a light layer of "fog" over the image and then erasing out the fog over the foreground elements. This will seperate out the foreground, midground and background and create depth. Something to keep in mind when you do your next landscape study (although it applies to any kind of image).
Keep it up.
P.S. it looks like the shading in that anime ref was done with a simple gradient from top to bottom rather than actually rendering out the forms of the face. You could try adding that to your version. See how it looks.
I really love seeing your improvement throughout your sketchbook and I enjoy the way you do lips! They look so luscious and moist! Thank you so much for commenting on my sketchbook, as I'll try to address those issues in my future drawings. It was very helpful. Can't wait to see more of your work.
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I like the stuff in post 18, looks like your doing some good observation there. I'd say practice from life all you can. Jump on any and all chances to do figure drawings, practice gesture drawing, and do a still-life every now and again. Huge thumbs up on the environment studies, that's a step in the right direction. Check out some painters that you like and really try and analyze what the do with the edge quality of objects in their paintings and how they distribute value & color. Your figures, especially the heads in profile look flattened because they are in sort of stiff, simple and unnatural poses. Also, facial features and bodies in perspective will do some odd things that you won't guess without looking at them up close, preferably in person. Don't have a model? Get in your birthday suit in front of a mirror and go nuts! Trust your eyes! Also, mirroring the image your working on horizontally or looking at it in a mirror will really help you see your image with fresh perspective to pick out problems. You've got some great potential in that noodle of yours, great start! Keep on drawing!
Mhm, mornin' all. Need to get breakfast soon *Yawn* put it off for time to do a study.
@jondawo Absolutely, i definitely find it hard to be motivated when doing studies, and my want to just be done makes me not really rend them to my fullest. I I'm not sure i understand completely. I've kind of re-read your post 9 times and i still can't wrap my head around that fog thing. Im kind of learn from visual than theories on art.
Anime image:ah yes you are true! i didnt really notice the color change, my eyes are very bad in the morning (contact lens user). And since i thought it was just one color for the face i went with a kind of failed vanillaware version of shading. I don't really know the name of their main artist. I don't know how to do a gradient, im just guessing what it is based on the term gradation i heard at school one, like years ago.
@Skymilk, thank you. I like the lips you do as well.I'm only good at doing lips when i put real effort in it though, otherwise they end up looking flat, like the ones in my anime ref pic. I have to be inspired to really do decent stuff.
@ChromaticCodex, Thank you! I'm not really sure i have that much potential, but if someone of your caliber says, well, umm thanks you! Yes, im def taking all the crits and working on fixing all errors. I agree completely with all you've said, i've always noticed it myself but my self-esteem makes me just go: leave it, and dont look back. After hearing what artists here have said, i've been working on finishing stuff, as well as staying focused even if i dislike what im doing.
Here's another study, i'll crank out 1 more then keep a 3 studies for each original drawing, hopefully. A bird skull study i did, none of the images on google caught my interest with the colours, except for one that was 300x267 pixels. It made it kind of difficult to see, but i had fun. Here.
Last edited by LoudLikeNature; February 22nd, 2013 at 05:09 AM. Reason: fattening letters!
very nice studies i really like the colors u chose and the textures awesoome keep it up
@Freshfool, thank you! umm, i was kind of hesitating on doing the texture, i didnt want to overdue the texture, that distracts from the actual rendering.
@Setherial, wow, really? Cool,huh. hehe, thanks.
Here's an updated version i did after lunch, there's some kinks i could work on, but i dont wanna continue anymore. The angle is still abit odd. Hopefully the next google image will be bigger.
The textures fit nicely, I think it's just the right amount.
I really like the last landscape and skull study. keep up the hard work!
I'm a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
That skull and environments looks nice. You got an eye for picking up colors.
It's probably my awkward use of words that led to you not understand me. I'm usually not very good at explaining things
I'll give it a try with some images, although I think I just made it more confusing.
Atmospheric perspective is the blueish haze effect that you see when you look at things in the distance. You can see it quite clearly on most photographs including the one that you did a study of.
Here's another example:
Notice how much less contrast there is between the mountains the sky compared to closest trees. This is actually what lets you know that the mountains are far away (aside from overlapping).
What I was trying to say was, that an easy way to apply this effect when you're painting, is to use a soft-edge brush, on a separate layer, to lightly paint over the parts you want to push back into the distance and erase the hazyness away over the closer objects. I tried to show this here:
P.S. A gradient is a smooth transition from light to dark or from one colour to another. You've been doing them all the time already
Last edited by jondawo; February 22nd, 2013 at 02:36 PM.