It's one of those days where I look at my art and think, "well ain't that some shit".
"How can you get a D in _____?!" And honestly, how did I get basically a failing grade in a non-AP, basic high school course? I'm gratefully able-bodied, no deficiencies in brain nor body. Am I just stupid?
Am I just worthless? I mean, all I do is create. I come home from school and have an early dinner and draw on paper, tablet, any kind of surface, really, until two or three a.m. on weekdays, often sleepless on weekends. I don't have to do it- it's not like I'm getting any sort of benefit in high school because of arting until the wee daylight hours. I mean, I got into the art college of my dreams in the department of my dreams with a lovely scholarship, but what can you do with a want to create in high school? The formulas are all given to you. At least in this curriculum. Don't draw, don't make, there's no need to create something new. Why would you inquire? The answer's there in the back. But don't look, you cheater. Don't think, just recall what you studied last night. Wrap your mind around these ideas and loathe any new ones- why would you need new ones? You're wrong. Don't be creative. There's no need for it. Just learn this, this, and this. Why on earth are you going to art college? Be a productive member of society, ya damn hippie!
Er, anyways. My question isn't for pity, to gain words of condolence, I just want to know how you guys get yourself out of any lulls and back into drawing art! Thanks for reading. I just needed to write down my feelings for once, haha.
Like in these http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=138102 http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219430 http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=217490
Also if you sit around until 3am every single night without studying of what you got a D (what ever it was) in, is it wonder you got a D?
Going with too little sleep doesn't help either.
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Also it's harder to say anything about the school subject as I didn't take "______" myself (as far as I know), so just going with the most possible chance with that one.
Edit: OK, seriously. People that go on to be professional artists and illustrators are people who keep at it. People that don't are those that never managed to get out of a "lull". Everyone does something different to kick themselves in gear...you'll figure out what works for you, or not.
Reality here. Hi *waves*
Art, as a profession, is not for everyone.
If you're the type that needs:
A) A cheerleader or group to encourage, you don't have the drive to be in the artistic industry
B) Get easily discouraged when you're unsuccessful in completing an assignment, whether it be self-imposed or a client, you don't have the drive to be in the artistic industry
C) Understand that no matter what you want to do that is of the artistic trade, that all things fundamentally, start with drawing, you don't have the drive to be in the artistic industry
D) That the truth about art is that it is ALWAYS a learning experience you will never be done learning, you don't have the drive to be in the artistic industry
E) That out of 5 people, 2 will probably be in the higher-levels of the industry and if you have constant doubts that prevent you from being productive when you've no other choice because YOUR "PASSION" IS NOW A JOB WITH DEMANDS, then you will not be one of those two, & you don't have the drive to be in the artistic industry
So if you have to be "convinced" to get back into something that should be apart of you like breathing and shitting, then you don't have the drive to be in the artistic industry-
Reality out. *waves*
My SketchBook http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=139784
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=192127"Everything must serve the idea. The means used to convey the idea should be the simplest and clear. Just what is required. No extra images. To me this is a universal principle of art. Saying as much as possible with a minimum of means."-John Huston, Director
You cannot survive with the things OmenSpirits brings up, it's true. But you're not doomed. You have to be able to change and evolve, to get over your own shit and get better. And for some, depending on the personality, it has to be a more active process than for others.
OmenSpirits Fuck you, reality. You know how our relationship is. I was asking a question about how to shake off the doubts, not why I should. I've known why I should since I first picked up the pen.
Thank you everyone for the more or less succinct feedback. You can let this thread die out now though, because I found that we're basically just repeating a lot of previous threads, haha.
surround yourself by artwork that has been done by those who whoop your butt.
Doctors heal you, Artists immortalize you.
"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach" - bullshit.
The usual staples for anatomy:
I look at my student loan bill...... ):
just do it for the Fat Lady.
Get your pencil, put on a piece of paper, and just draw. Drawing is fun when you don't think about it. So every time you think of drawing instead of thinking just draw. And don't spend all your time looking for tutorials. Those artist learned how to do those things by experimenting and observing the things around them. And plus creating art is not like doing sports. Even if you don't draw for a while you will still be better than when you started. And each drawing you do will help you improve and bring you a step closer to being the artist you want to be no matter how bad it is. If you want to get back in the zone just draw. Fake it until you make it.
I dont tend to have this problem too much, but I did at one point have an issue when I let myself work digitally for a very long time and got out of touch with pencil on paper drawing skills. I forced myself to carry a small personal sketchbook with me at all times, and just doodled whatever came to mind when I had a moment, and forced myself to doodle for 30 minutes before sleep every night. Got me back into the habit of physically drawing, kept my momentum going, and improved my skill as well. I would just doodle anything. I have entire pages of kitchen appliances. I would just to try illustrate anything that popped into my head at any given moment. I swear, this helped me so much on so many different levels.
I stopped drawing much recently, because it didn't stop to frustrate me. Insight took me long on this one but technique is really nothing without an idea, passion or sense in what you do. In Illustration, most people dont really care if you know the muscles of the leg. They see the Idea and the Story behind it. I started to read more, talk to people more, listen to more good music, go outside more, spend less time in front of screens worrying why the pixels dont look like i want them to, read more comics, throwing boomerangs around to see if they will return.
I have faith that, if I find more things I really like and care about and know about, it will help me in my design and illustration work. I worried too much about technique. I always had this CA.org-voice in my head, that told me to make more studies, paint more still lifes, and all those things you know about when you spend a couple years here.
Remember: You don't have to do anything. There's no police breaking into your house if you don't do what you think you have to.
If you do it, do it for YOURSELF. Because it is for you and not for any school. Because you want to do it. Keep reminding yourself of that fact.
If you do it for the community or for applause, you might want to overthink it.
Ok sorry for the long text, i guess I wrote this more for me then for you, hope you can get something out of it =)
Well I find that the best route is to post a generic "I don't have any motivation, what do?" thread, and wait until Elwell posts.
Then, you'll either be super motivated for the rest of your life, or you will draw desperately, fearing retribution if you don't.
I check out work from my senior year of college. I really like seeing this type of work for inspiration and remembering where I came from.
Here's a free download of the 19th senior portfolio of The School of Visual Arts in high-res, PDF format. This collection normally comes out as a small book of SVA's senior illustrations and is judged by it's instructors such as Frances Jetter, Jack Endlewelt and Marshall Arisman. Get your copy at the form above.
Y'know all those fabulous pictures, compositions and even half assed doodles that you picture in your head, yeah?
Newsflash! Everyone has those.
The only person who cares enough to actually make them a reality is you, so you might as well get started right now.
As in now, log off from the interfacebooktubes right this second and go make the thing.
Nobody is going to paint them for you. Get to work.
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You do have to recharge your batteries. The waldorf school calls in 'in breath' and 'out breath'. so if you feel all give out and out of inspiration, you need to be inspired. take a walk, do some visualization exercise before you draw to plan it out before you even pick up the pencil, visit a gallery, find an art contest, flip trough a magazine and look at the illustrations and photography, watch a sunset, go for a walk, watch how the light hits a family members face, listen to music. there are many awe inspiring things out there. take a peek at the nasa footage from the hubble telescope.
what inspires you? what makes you want to pick up that pencil and sketchbook. what subjects interest you? study some of those and jot down ideas for art. maybe looking at a list of possible ideas to draw will make it more exciting to choose one. Art is a process and it is easy to get stuck down the path. it seems hardest to start a piece and finish one to me. but finishing a piece is a whole other subject. : )
keep making art.