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Hi, I'm a newbie here, I wanted to do something like this for a start, but I decided to start in the next challenge, my work is killing me this week. I'll still do it for a future final pic, but I'd like to see some crits. I know its very very rough, but I know you guys get it
Btw, I dont like the monster pet whatever it is, so I'm definitely gonna change that.
It's so tempting to keep pulling back to show more. Especially with this CHOW as I instantly thought epic creature FUCK YEAH! I may well crop in and concentrate on my character, then finnish the big pic later. Really enjoying this CHOW, great subject!
blackrobin: Thanks mate. I'm kinda working along the lines that once he's created the creature it pretty much wants to fuck everything up. So he has to be constantly vigilant or it will turn on him. I need to stop feckin about and sort out my mancer! Liking yours a lot! So what if he's practically naked. He's a feckin wizard! If he has control of the snow maybe he can control temperature too
ste]: Love the scale of this and your costume design is wicked. One thing concerns me, I don't think we can see 3/4 of the character
SaraCuervo: Thanks, I love your aurora borealis background, maybe be careful with the character placement, at the moment I feel like she's a bit close to the edge of the canvas.
macimovic: Looking good, might be nice to add some greeny blues into the creature to vary things up a little?...there is a lot of the same hue at the moment.
Hilding I like this a lot! The colors are great, creature is great, and concept is unique. I wonder if u need the reigns tho? Theyre so tiny and I think id prefer to see them as friends. Maybe theyre linked so to speak. Maybe you can show more clearly that the creature is made of ice?
M Love the update.
dreadreaper I'm glad you're exploring different colors and stuff. I highly recommend getting some reference for everything, especially your wolf char. I know he's not 100% wolf, but some reference of wolves howling will help a lot.
GEB I can tell the char and creature are on the same team since the char is obviously not worried bout it. IMO, you should redo the char in a better pose. Being straight on and looking at the viewer is boring. His cape is looking a lot like a bushy tail. I like this image a lot tho.
artina Looking good here. His hair looks likes its combed perfectly and that is distracting me lol. he has tattered clothes, and his hair should be more messy. his outstretched arm looks like an elephant trunk. I know its covered in that thick leather, but I'd like to see more form of the arm. Try darkening the sweeping arc of snow from the owl just a bit...I think its a great design but its not very noticeable.
blackrobin I love this pose leaning on his bear buddy. The guy is looking pretty short which is fine but you can shrink his head a bit to make him more heroic looking. BTW my guy has skin showing too; I made his skin blue and I figure his people live in the snow and they're adapted for it. So I think your idea is fine. My only concern here is that you can't tell the character is 'mancing' the bear? However, since all this work should be for portfolios, I would never let the brief control your creativity.
ste: I know what you mean I learnt that maybe I should calm th efuck down with my backgrounds
OK trying to sort out the scribbles from the armour. I plan to ad some reds in there too
Update. Not sure if it's getting too muddy, or if my eyes are tired from looking at the screen to long, sooo time to take a break! Some really awesome stuff on here, loving all the different takes.
GEB- I'm really liking your character. Maybe have the wind pick up a little, get that cape to come up off his back so we can see it? Liking the creature too.
daveneale - loving your style.
Sorry for the lack of crits, I'll try to get some in later. Thanks so much for those who have commented on mine!
this is an amazing work M. Makes me go back to it just to look at it more. However, if i were to suggest something it would definitely be the focal points of your piece. The soul seems to be the most important part of the painting. It completely grabs all the attention all the time. The character, which should be the most important in this case, does not stand out anymore and looks really dull. I think if you were to lighten up his face a little to bring that brilliant expression you got going, it would make the piece a lot more interesting and balanced. What i mean is that you can still keep your soul as the mian focal point - its your artistic choice and there is nothing wrong. But it seems that it's grabbing a little too much attention from the beautifully designed character.
WOW There's so much great stuff going on in here! I wanted to comment on everyone's but I just don't have the time right now- there's so much awesomeness it's overwhelming!
MatejaPetkovic- this one is my absolute favorite!! So moody and beautiful- it's such an inspiration!
Some other favs are Partisan, GEB, daveneale, Parsakoira- the list goes on and on though!
Here's two rough wip shots of mine. I'm almost afraid to show them, after seeing all the amazing things everyone else is doing
Sooo maaaanyyyyy poooosts! Jeez, I thought I´d give some crits to you at the present page atleast:
Naneel - Nice composition and a good start for a palette too! Welcome to CHOW! (Can I say that?)
gloombunny - Pay attention to the left arm(from viewers pespective), the shortaging looks a bit
strange. Im having problems with that too, and try to get the left hand a bit more siluette.
Other than that its a nice start, keep up the work!
Schnookiefoo - Now that´s an original take on the whole theme. I like the style!
Ruri - You also got a very original style! It´s fun to see people interpreting the themes
diferently. Big plus for the cute snow-creatures!
GEB - I looove your background, really nice done! The monster also gets better and better,
your final is gonna rock.
MJ_Alcazar - Cool colors and mood, reminds me of that russian guy Rasputin somehow.
f o x - I really like your snowbird, is that an owl? It feels like a cover for a comic book,
Artfix - Really cool work! Although his arms feels too small to fit his torso, of you just
enlarge them a bit it would look better.
And here is mine, didnt do much at all today, probably gonna give it more time in the weekend. Just splashed some basic paint on it, not sure where to go with it.
3d/2d Portfolio: www.oscarottosson.se
My sketchbook: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=235236
@emerging, thanks for critique, and i think you are right, as we speak i am working on head, so will make it pop up
@artfix, loved it more in b/w
@GEB, i know i said that main focus should be character, since this is chow, but i think you shouldn't crop image, now composition doesn't make sense
@daveneale, beautiful work man, love that monster, so fucking cute, you definitely have my vote
@Partisan, speed up man, i want to see it done!!
Overall excellent works, and i miss something by Jessy
Hah just started on this one...thought of an idea of some evil wizard walking toward the foreground while his summon rose in the back but I don't think I'm expressing it quite clearly enough, heh. Need to add something to the foreground including the character....he needs some chest armor and cleaning!
Artfix - I think his cloak could use some texture / shadows, apart from that looking great, especially the lighting and ice.
I changed my composition a little to be more expansive and get in a proper creature, will need make sure the emphasis is on the man though... Have a few ideas to try out tomorrow as he looks weak at the moment. Keep running out of time, do we really need sleep!?!
Yes, I do know that the piece has been updated, but...
First off, I did not tell him to keep the shiny lights. I only meant that the enhanced contrast helped to make the scene look my dynamic. Secondly, you are putting the color blue into meanings that fit your own purpose. Blue can be read many different ways. In this case, I was referring to how skin can loose color and turn a blue shade when cold. Also blue IS in ice as you can see from the below links:I dont agree. Using a vibrant blue, within his existing colour scheme (which would clash and make the flow of the piece awkward if used to 'highlight the magic'), would only demonstrate that he has employed a symbolic colour. Blue is typically registered as 'expansive cold' (sky,ocean etc), not snow, so using blue would not only be lazy, but add further confusion when reading the 'shiny lights' in the image.
Perhaps a vibrant blue would be too much, but as there is blue in his original drawing, it is not like he was adding something completely foreign.
Third, what would be the problem with using symbolic imagery to enhance the understanding of the work? Art has been done this way since the most ancient of times. Hieroglyphs, votive statues, illuminated manuscripts, etc. And while subtly does make for an interesting piece, I am arguing that he is being too subtle. It is one thing to insult the viewer by making it outrageously obvious, and quite another to expect the viewer to understand the piece with so little information incorporated. Call me an idiot, or whatever it is that you feel like saying, but without the prompt I would have had no idea that his character was a snowmancer. All of the images, symbols, and colors that were actually incorporated indicated that this was a necromancer. And while it is a lovely piece, those symbols did not have it following the prompt. (This is not to say that I am judging if it should be allowed entry into the finals. That is, of course, up to the judges.)Why does it need to be obvious? To suit the brief? I think not, isn't being obvious taking the fun out of reading the image in the first place. A picture can say a thousand words, but lets not rush to turn images into manuals, let the reader enjoy the process of understanding and interpriting the image on their level.
Again, you are putting words into my mouth. I never said that it needed to look like a computer game or anything of the sort. And who is the judge of when things are suitable and not suitable to be used? In a contest about ideas, making sure that your audience understands your thoughts is important, yes? We are just saying that his full concept is not coming through as clearly as we think it should be.I agree that everything should look like a computer game (thats where were all heading right, some form of interchangeable entertainment), but I think thats because people are now comsumers and recessive. Using obvious tricks when not suitable (which is highly subjective) doesn't demonstrate anything other than the artists ability and his/her inclination to show off.
I understand that you have an opinion, UCT, but I dislike how you put others down to make your point. There are many different ways that people have to speak and communicate ideas. For Afekey, he has an easier time getting his point across by doing a paint over. Yes, M chose the more subtle, textured route, and yes, Afekey took away from that in his paint over. But was is necessary to attack the way he draws and his opinion on the matter? As I said, I do understand that everybody has an opinion, but there are ways of being polite about it that still get your point across.@Afekey & Phrix : I understand we are presenting two different attitudes of what the viewer expects and how they interact with visuals: and I think you are right to give the crits you have, they do fall inline with the expectations of concept art (slightly boastful and in your face). I think maybe M should take your advice and develop a more obvious style, after all we are all here to learn and become better at being concept artists, I do not mean to deconstruct M's work away from being a success or readable to the popular eye.
I did mean however to deconstruct why I liked his image in the first place, for its grim atmosphere and (what I perceive to be) its unique approach to demonstrate the characters story and his contest there in. I think M's work is subtle and respectful of the viewer, he doesn't patronise the viewer by using obvious symbols, I dont think he is racing towards making an obvious World of War Craft type character with thrilly flashy bits jumping at us like fireworks for us to just stair at mindlessly, ahhh, ohhhh, eeee. Im not against using bright blue, I like how its used in evilsanta's and maciamovic's artworks, because it works within the characters and story they use.
Last edited by Phrix; March 10th, 2011 at 07:49 PM.
quick wip. hopefully ill get this finished. awesome work by all
update before sleep.
So many great entries
sorry for not critting all.
Great start. I like the way the ice contrasts the water. Why not let them cast shadows on the creature. Perhaps introduce some green tones on the creature. Looking forward to see more of the canoer.
Great character design.
I like the idea and design.
Beautiful very promising.
I like the action.
Great design on the clothing. Perhaps have the snow creature more white to enhance the snow aspect and silhouetting the character more.
Nice take. Keep on render it out.
Great very Arctic and good characters.
Great start. Nice take and mode.
Like it Why not have some more light reflecting in her face.
Very nice. Keep on rendering out the ice creature.
Last edited by JanJager; March 10th, 2011 at 10:27 PM.
Better late than never I guess. Some amazing designs on this thread!
Everyone, I tip my hat to you. This is beautiful work all around and I am completely envious of it.
As for me, I throw in the towel. I hate this piece more and more and it has major issues that can't be fixed without scrapping it and starting over. I did what I could with it but now I bow out. Here's as far as I got. To save on my embarrassment I won't be entering in the finals but I enjoyed it while it lasted.
Thanks CA for all your help! I can't wait until next week!
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It's really inspiring seeing how everybody's doing ice, which is freaking hard to paint. Especially impressed by JanJager.
@Artfix - You've got so many great jagged, sharp shapes that your figure's looking a bit too soft in comparison, almost like they're two different styles. Maybe if you did something to make the shading on him just a little sharper - perhaps more painterly than airbrushed?
@jrbarker - I'm loving that dramatic lighting.
@fdisk - That costume design is fab, but her pose seems sort of unbalanced - as though she's about to topple backwards. I think it's the way that leg is bent, combined with not seeing what the other leg is doing. It sort of makes it look like she's leaning back?
Starting in on my creature's details. Hopefully the fact that the snowmancer's right in the centre of it doesn't take it too far off the brief... and I'm hoping I can get him surrounded by snow without entirely covering up the design and thus completely defeating the purpose of a character challenge. Derp.