it's my first time posting in CC so sorry in case I'm doing it wrong.
This picture I painted as secret santa gift for Nephilie here and I consider it the best I can do so far, but I'm sure you can spot lots of errors and things that I could have done better. One problem I see in all my pictures is that they seem boring, well this is just a boring portrait, dunno if it's just me.
I have also a question on copyright. I painted this so I kinda own this picture, right, but since it's a fanart I kinda don't? How is that?
Thanks in advance.
I used this Borovikovsky painting as starting point for composition and reference for the face, the texture on the stones is from cgtextures.com, the character is from TV series Mononoke, used software is Gimp.
Well, tbh I find it to be very "mind relaxing" instead of boring. Good job on this one.
Looks nice! Maybe you can give it more punch by having the lighting look less uniform ? I mean, there's leafs partly blocking sunlight, some blocking it fully and other times just letting everything through. But we don't see that on the figure. And maybe have the darkest darks in the background forest a bit lighter, like you did with the clearing on the left. This gives it a bit more depth and seperation between the foreground and background. More colour variation will also help to spice things up. All areas are painted with the same colours it seem. Like, all skin with a few, all leafs of the top area with a certain green, all of the lower right with another green etc. By having colour variation within areas they look more natural too.
Not sure about the copyrights. From what I gather you own the rights of this painting. Others can't copy or sell this painting without your permission and the one holding the copyright of the character. You can't sell this painting without the permission of the one holding the copyright of the character. The one with the copyright of the character can't sell this painting either, because they don't own the rights to this rendition.
I just want to say that I think this is fantastic. I love the detail of the leaves, and also the hair is beautiful. I think you did a wonderful job, and I hope are very proud of this one!!! It belongs on a wall
(and go Gimp!)
edit: I actually wouldn't change anything. IMO.
I like it as it is but if you want to alter it then I think RicoD is right.
Widen the range of colours and make them more vibrant. Also, you could add highlights to the fabric of her garment to indicate what type of material it is made from. I believe there is a good walkthrough on these forums to show you how that is achieved.
Pls post final version if different as I'd like to see the difference.
I tried to put shadows of leaves on the figure put it just looked like dirt. Maybe I used the wrong color. Do you know some paintings where this has been done well?
Obviously I'll have to find some reference, shame on me for not having done that yet..
Good point on color variation too.
Here is just a quick overpaint, but is this going in the right direction?
Heavens, wroblewski-art and zy., thanks for your kind words.
and go Gimp
Thanks ScottDotNet, I'll look for that walkthrough. I guess I should make him more male looking too ...
Him... oops, sorry.
Probably not in the style you're looking for, but the ones that came to mind were:
Blues singer leaving town
A painting by Hyung-Tae Kim
I think this is much better. Before I almost ignored the character and went to the unicorn because there was more contrast there. now the forground is holding it's own against the very compelling background.
I still think you could push some small highlights into the char to make it even better. Metal or silky fabrics would be the target of these 'final highlights' that you'd use to solidify the viewers gaze on the character and guide them around the form.
Looking good Leysan! Perhaps a bit too subdued. On the other hand, too much could make it stand out too much. And although we generally want attention to the face, too much will overpower the face itself and lead us right out again.
I like Truepinkas' suggestions and would like to see that as well.
Added to that, I'm wondering about that stack of stoneslabs. It doesn't really look like a natural rock, but not really like a wall or piece of ruin either. It's right inbetween there and looks a bit out of place to me.
I think this is a great picture, very nicely rendered.
But I felt like it could use a little more variation of saturation to pop a little more. I just played with a few overlay layer, soft light, multiply with some gradients etc.
Nur ein Vorschlag
Another nice improvement Leysan! The overal more yellow hue goes well with a warm sun kind of feel. I think we'd get a nice contrast if you brought back some of the cooler tones for the background forest's shadow areas.
Ah, the slabs of rock were supposed to be ruins. I can see that now, although there would be less left to doubt if they looked a bit more chiseled and / or had traces of ornamentals glyps or something like that. The new arrangement has a nice quality of it's own and creates a bit more dynamic look. The moss in the shadow side looks a bit cut off and could use some more randomness.
There are also these really dark and saturated shadows in the plants behind the left elbow and on the rocks (and I think some in the treetops, but they blend in better with the rest there). Nothing quite so dark can be found on the figure though, except maybe just below the ear. Although the contrast on the main figure is still greater (where you indeed want your focus), perhaps either lighten those shadows in the scenery one step or make some of the shadows of the figure a step darker?
I like it! I'm posting this because I wanted to see the original next to the current update. It's definitely improved!
And then God said, "Let us make man in our likeness and our image. Let us make him ridiculously hard to draw so that poor artists everywhere will have to spend 10,000+ hours failing repeatedly before they can begin to capture the form and likeness onto a two-dimensional surface." And there was man. And it was good. And artists everywhere lost their minds.
I love the progress on this! Really shows how temperature can make the difference between "nice" and "WOW." Thank you for sharing!
I found another good painting on deviantart (flipped through my favorites - knew I would find one!) that might inspire you if you want to add the cast shadows from the leaves.
Also, remember the warm light/cool shadow rule. I think you should add more purples and blues in the shadows. Make the warmth pop even more!
This piece is so soothing. Truly an environment I wish I could live in. There's been some definite improvements and I love how willing you are to change your picture into something better. Good use of reference too . I would agree with KABOSHace on the cool shading the picture could use, but that's a bit of a nitpick as the picture looks good without it.
Hmm, I think I actually preferred the stones when they were more rough. Right now they're a rather extreme contrast with the background, which is pretty much oozing nature and fantasy, while the lines of the stones are quite "tight".
The dappled lighting is a nice addition, I do think they need to be a little less yellow, though (more white, I mean).
I liked when you increased the saturation on the characters face. In your first post, the image looked somewhat grayed down. Other than that, there's no glaring flaws that I can see.
For what it's worth, this is my opinion -
I like the cool colors in the original so much more!
The environment is so cool and calm and serene -those colors just seem to work so well in the original. Maybe just a little warmer lighting on the face - and ONLY the face, I don't see the need to change the lighting in the entire painting because I really think that the background becomes washed out.
This is probably one of the most beautiful paintings I've ever seen on Concept Art - I can't stop looking at it! It reminds me in some way of Picasso's "Olga in an Armchair."
Last edited by reachm; February 21st, 2011 at 02:07 PM.
It is indeed very relaxing. Now, where the copyright is concerned, I'm not sure the other poster who commented on it is completely accurate, because at Conventions I see loads of artists selling fanart ), and I don't think there's anyway ALL of them got permission or are paying royalties, especially given how young a lot of them are. I'm don't know the letter of the law but this is what I see.
The washing out of the background was probably because of the overlay and multiply layers I used to change the light. I tried to fix that by adding more contrast to the background again.
Thank you for your inspiring words. It's really great to read that I made something people enjoy so much. Thank you everyone else for your kind words as well. Actually I went here to get away from the asspats on Animexx and got some here as well, I guess I can be a little proud of myself after all
Last edited by Leysan; March 1st, 2011 at 05:44 AM. Reason: new pic