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devastacio!! awesome imagination u have. your interpretation on this week's CHOW is quite interesting and what I've noticed about your concepts is that you make good use of your references and storytelling. i commend you for that ability ^^" other than that, i'd like to see you keep cranking out studies so you can improve all around
great stuff my friend!
Cool to see how you can already benefit from the studies, you've made on head construction. Proportionaly the Tiger Lily is awesome. Also I like the colors, especially on the hair. The neck seems too short though. I think because it looks like the trapezius is attaching straight to the side of the neck. Instead there should be overlapping, so it goes behind the neck. I know that you also meant it that way, now it's just not so obvious.
Compositionally, I think it would be better if the slice of the shoulder and the stick wouldn't come out of the "box". It makes it look like it's floating on top of the frame, instead of being in it, which flattens it a bit IMO. The escaping hair is awesome though and brings more depth to it.
I also added a paint over to illustrate my point.
Let's keep drawing and we'll get there!
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@ ShiNIN - Hello there mate. Well about 'Teresa' ill be doing some more concepts this week. last week's ChoW got my hands full so had to keep it on hold. Tell Alvaro ill try to make her more graceful this time. About the Tiger Lily, well the concept was too subtle but the point is anyone could be a serial killer and there are no distinctive features that makes them look like a one. But where i went wrong was ChoW is all about concept arts and i just have to be blunt to get the message through. Anyway i could have given her all the looks she needs if i drew the full figure, props and the environment. but thanks for the feedback mate. much appreciated.
@ Sivonja - Well you are 100% right about that my friend. ill try my best to do a full figure for next chow, if i find the topic interesting. dont worry once i finish my anatomy lessons ill be doing all the ChoW's anyway. save your vote for my next try
@ ThomasM - hello Thomas, its good to see you here after long time. i know you are hell busy with work and your pencils are amazing. yep youre correct about the neck ill be doing some detailed studies this week so will definitely get those problems fixed. Thanks a lot mate.
@ JaneMag - Hello there mate. Your comment just made me bounce back from discouragement when i returned from ChoW. Thanks a lot! well i used the noise reduction along with some smudges in specific areas and it ended up well. glad that you like it
@ Snake - Hello friend. Glad that you like it. Above all thanks a lot for the encouragement and for your advices. They mean a lot to me. Well as i promised there will be no giving up and ill get there soon enough. btw i dont plan do go this way alone. i want all my friends to go with me too so lets work together for a common goal yeah?
@ Bethany - Hello there my friend. glad that you like the look of it. i like it a lot because i managed to preserve the pencil rendering too. Thanks for the encouragement mate. oh btw i hope you finished with your ChoW piece. Hope you post it soon
@ teapo - Hello there teapo! its nice to meet you. Thanks so much for the kind words and for the encouragement. Yeps more studies are on the way and ill be sharing them here. And hey, lets do this weeks chow yeah?
@ Myllys - hello there mate. You are seriously helpful and it means a lot to me. The paint-over is great and the composition is way way better than mine. Ill be doing more neck muscle studies so that i can nail this problem. Ill take your advice and try to apply it to my future work. im grateful for the time you spent on this, to help me out.
Well lets see the updates....
I cant show you any interesting stuff for now. because for another week youll be seeing lots of pieces from my studies, Muscles of the torso, in particular. Now these are quick sketches so you may not be able to make a lot out of it. but ill try my best to do a detailed drawing for tomorrow's update with some descriptions. There will be loads of doodles too
Last edited by devastacio; January 22nd, 2011 at 04:59 PM.
I'm not completely agree with Alvaro, I had not so much problem with the serial killer girl or Teresa, but he's sometimes a problematic, hard to please "client", I can say this as his illustrator... (while he saves and treasures very very amateur Touhou and Claymore fanarts... *facepalm*) Not like he's a good critic, though...
But I'm looking forward to your future Teresa drawings as well
About your current update: you drew the pelvis really wrong. Pelvis... it drove me nuts in the past, with its crazy shape...
From the front, it should be much wider, about as wide as the ribcage (narrower in men, wider in women, of course there are diversity). Probably because of the very narrow pelvis, the waist is extremely narrow as well...
I have no problems with the muscles
Yeah shiNIN is right , but this time i will not critics u , i am glad u start to do anathomy lessons ,well i wish u big luck and u have my support
Hey that last anatomy piece is good! do more of those, but then, don't just do them. Many beginners just copy. To surpass, you must initiate your "copies" into drawn knowledge. I mean, basically, start using what you know, and find shortcuts for how to simplify the actual form from your imagination, so it still looks readable on a realistic level.
That's just my thoughts on that...
I like the serial killer pencil better than the paint job. Simply because the "noise" or little pencil scratches really lifts the drawing off the page if you know what I mean. It just has more life to it. It would take a lot more of PS painting textures to get that feeling back, if you decided to turn it into a full PS painting.
And that serial killer information was creepy man! Damn, those people are crazy! I also noticed that a lot of them only attack women and children. That's just low.
but anyway, sorry for ranting.
Peace man. keep on improving and pushing yourself!
Behind every great master is a great student...
Imagination is more important than knowledge- Albert Einstein...
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All the way through I thought that your assassin is painted digitally,
but now I realize that you did that with colored pencils.
Anyway, good to know that you will continue with your studies,
like for example these anatomy sketches will be implanted in your brain
and you will use it very wisely in the future.
The front view is too narrow, the pelvis is skewed strangely, and it
is surely too narrow. Take a look one more your reference, or just
go through again that Phoenix tutorial part. The muscles are looking
pretty much ok, I hope that you will post more pretty soon.
Even if you do these studies, throw in some life drawing or imaginary
in between. Mix it up, just like Tom Cruise mixed his cock-tails.
@ shiNIN - yeps 100% agree. I felt there's something odd once i finished the drawing. Ill be fixing this tomorrow. have to go through some old lessons. I may have done teh same mistakes here as well, although i tried to make it more wider. But itll be okay once i do a recap. oh ill be starting to work on 'Teresa' after this update.
@ Sivonja - hehe thanks man. your support is always welcome my friend.
@ poetry man - hello there mate. good to see you here again. Yeah All the study pieces in my sb are done from my mind. I go through the lessons first, remember everything, then do the study completely from my mind. copying anatomy studies is fruitless in my opinion too mate. Glad that you like the ChoW piece. feeling is mutual about the 'colored pencil finish' about the serial killers; im still reading about them. Man, sicking stories but at the same time they feed my curiosity. Im reading about the "Elizabeth Bathory: The Blood Countess" these days. Here's the link to the movie trailer
LA COMTESSE:The blood countess movie trailer
@ Snake - Hello my friend. Those are pencils and paint on top of em with multiply layers. Yep im gonna go through the lessons again tomorrow so i can fix those problems. hehe yeah ill be doing some imaginary characters soon. Thanks for the idea mate. i hope youll make an update today. Ill see you there.
Moving on to the updates.....
here goes some more study pieces and doodles.Im still struggling a lot with proportions, form, perspective, basically everything but from the experience i had from drawing heads i know its just a matter of practice and little more time. Im struggling to find lines so drawings are messy, but ill remedy this soon. Hope they'll be useful to anyone who visits here. even in a minor scale.
Last edited by devastacio; January 23rd, 2011 at 03:24 PM.
great anatomy studies dude. Nothing to crit other than just keep doing what you're doing. Studies form books and particularly anatomy really helped me learn to nail proportions. Always making structural lines through horizontals and verticals helped me line things up nicely too when doing the initial sketch.
Keep it up!
That spartans have kinda too big stomach muscles ...but ok , u will figure out laters that ,just keep drawing and all will be better
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That is what I am talking about, those torso studies making
my mind to blow like a mature cauliflower.
Nothing to crit, just praise.
Good improvement direction acquired.
I will have to watch '300' immediately.
nice studies, though you might want to try creating torso's with different poses/ perspectives just to shake things up a little
art is never finished, only abandoned~Leonardo da Vinci
'tis great that you are dipping back into the studies devastacio! however, some may have mentioned this but try to just do more line work and focus on construction rather than trying to render up one study. that way you can tackle the proportion issues as you draw multiple versions of the same study instead of focusing on the rendering of one study when you could have drawn about 5 or 10 more of the subject. you're on a roll though, so don't stop!
i too have to do less render work and learn/observe basic shapes, construction, and all that jazz in my anatomy studies-- so you're not alone!
Hello my friend. Sorry for not following your updates, but I have very little time lately (examination session in college sux ;p). Anyway. I really like your COW entry. I will not go into any anatomical and technical issues. I like the colors, and the general climate. Very nice job!
hi mate your artwork has a good stedy points especially the faces
i like you artwork my friend
have a good great day
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You're doing some progress mate, but you still doing major mistake - you almost immediately start drawing details. First of all you should define basic shape and proportion of the object. Use simple figures, like circles or squares. Remaining in boundary of such shapes would help you to preserve proportions. Keep practicing!
One crit for you after re-looking at these torso studies:
remember to try and limit the width of the abs. They are rarely (in life at least) wider than the width of the head, and that is the case with many of these above. Just something to think about
Thanks for the great link to that book on my sketchbook too! I have gone ahead and bought that as I'm looking for some tips to achieve interesting pencil textures.
studys'are'deffo'showing'off!! nice last chow btw!
Wow! So many replies. Thanks a lot for your valuable feedback mates. Ill try my best to repay the kindness you have shown here, for each and every one of you in the future.
@ Thomas – Hello there mate. Im still doing the fundamental torso studies. Ill be moving into some advanced stuff soon. Need to watch some movies so I can get a good idea about how to render realistically. Thanks for the tips mate. I guess I need to use more construction lines as you mentioned here. Thanks for the encouragement too !
@ Sivonja – hehe im just drawing without any idea about how they look in real life. I ll be doing some in depth studies in the weekend so ill fix all these problems soon. Thanks for the constant support and encouragement mate.
@ Snake – Hey thanks for the movie. I haven’t watched it before. Don’t know how I missed it. Im going to watch it soon. Seems like good study material to me. No crits? Haha Thanks for the encouragement mate.
@ ezekrialase – Hello there mate. After long time, as I recall. Thanks for the tips. Ill definitely draw them in different perspectives once I finish the studies. Have to do the same thing with heads as well.
@ alexson – Hello there mate. It does me good to see your input here. Glad that you like those anatomy studies. Ill be doing some detailed studies soon so its easy for everyone to understand because most of those studies are really rough and contain flaws. Thanks for the encouragement too mate.
@ teapo – Hello there teapo. Man, you made me laugh like a madman with your ‘Skin Tone’ study. Well I totally agree with you man. I did the rendering there because it was a part of the lessons. So I thought of finishing it off as well. But as you said ill be sticking to line drawings as much as possible. Thanks fro all the valuable tip and for the encouragement friend. Much respect!
@ Danny_K – Hello there mate. Its good to see more experienced artists willing to help me out. I promise ill try to make up for this in every opportunity I get. Thanks for the kind words. I saw some cool space ship design I guess. Ill be visiting your sb soon.
@ Kungfoowiz – Hello there bro. its always good to see you here. Glad that you like my Chow Piece. Don’t worry more anatomy pieces will be coming your way soon! Thanks for everything my friend.
@ Ramalooke – haha you're so lucky mate. I have a ‘Mel Gibson’ drawing ready for slackers but hey, Ill be merciful this time and wait till those exams are over. Im waiting here to see more work of yours. Thanks a bunch for the encouragement. That helps a lot!
@ qlotzan – my my. Long time no see. I thought you abandoned the ship! Good to be back eh? Thanks for the kind and encouraging words mate.
@ in2eternity – Hello there mate. Thanks a lot for paying a visit to my sb. Glad that you like the ChoW piece. Thanks for the encouragement too!
@ equilerex – Hey Hey. Good to see ya. Hope your studies going well. Ill post more anatomy studies soon mate. Many thanks!
@ Seraph Fawkes – hello there mate. Good to see you after long time. Thanks for the tip. I guess your right mate. Ill try to take your advice and apply it to my future drawings as much as possible. No worries, I too believe that practice makes perfect!
@ Thomas – hello again my friend. Now that’s some great tip. I was having tough time determining the width of the abs anyway, so this really helps! Many thanks. hehe I knew you would like that book just as I do
@ oma – Hello there mate. I haven't seen you updating for some time now. Ill be visiting your sb to check out anyway. Glad that you like the ChoW piece. Actually most of you guys seem to like it. It encourages me a lot ! Thanks for everything mate.
@ Leo_7 – hey there, Thanks a lot for visiting my sb. Glad that you like the study pieces. I enjoyed your study pieces as well.
Oh my my. Im sorry for the long post (740 words approx LOL ) but its absolutely necessary to thank everyone personally. So, bear with me.
Moving to the updates…..
More study pieces here. A lot more to come as well. Once I finish the back muscles study ill post them all here. I did some imaginary heads as well to keep up the practice. All female heads because have to draw lots of male figures and heads in the upcoming week. I also started refining my pencils step by step. So I included those pieces as well . btw Special Thanks to ‘Sivonja‘ for the list of Serbian heroes. I always enjoyed learning history. I did a draft version of the ‘knife casing’ after looking at your last update. I wish to do detailed drawings of other pieces as well. Sadly I couldn’t find any references yet.
Hope you enjoy!
Nice muscle studies. You're putting a lot of effort in them and it'll pay of. I agree what you posted on my thread. You should also start making some gesture studies. That way when you start to apply your knowledge about muscles, your pieces will also be more dynamic. Very nice heads from imagination. The construction seems solid. I think you should draw them larger though. The side profile one is not as good as the others. The chin seem too large and maybe also comes too much forward.
That last one with various objects. The colorized version kicks ass!
Keep drawing mate!
My sketchbook here: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...75944&page=999
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Muscles getting better this time , i still see that u spent alot additional time to render that studies ...u not need to do that ...try to reduce number of lines and your studies will be much better ,it's not point to make perfect light with graphite pencil , when u using pencils then lines is main weapon , if u smuggle line or if u draw milion lines and we cannot see them then u lose power of lines ... ,on that face studies u not draw too much lines as u do on muscle studies and u should continue in that way.