I did a little drawing of a guy drinking beer yesterday but seem to have misplaced the image file. Instead, just dropping in to say that I'll be overseas and my dad refuses to let me bring my huge-ass sketchbook in the luggage, so there might a posting break of about two weeks.
To make up for it, I've got some figure drawings and too many words here: http://sigmaplus.wordpress.com/
I'm planning to buy Bridgman's Guide there though, heard it's a lot cheaper than in Singapore.
Greetings from China. My fingers are freezing. On the plus side, I learned some new stuff about perspective today.
When I drew that pic with iffy perspective I was thinking of the flattened-out effect you get when, say, you shoot buildings from afar with a telephoto lens. So I was searching for 'flat perspective' and found this: http://blogs.nyu.edu/blogs/csh304/ch..._perspect.html
um, anyway, lesson learnt that isn't related to the photo: vanishing point can be outside the picture frame, even in 1-point.
I'm no master of perspective, but here's what I see.
The door is actually in two point perspective because you can see two planes: the broad side and the end of the door where the hinges are. All this really means is that the end of the door would be angled and not 100% horizontal. I believe they would both vanish on the same horizon, or the eye level that the image has.
I think you actually got it pretty close here. The only part that I see that needs fixing is the lines on the sidewalk. Since the building and sidewalk are in one point, I think it's fine to have the vanishing point be somewhere in the center like below.
I'm not sure that you're right about one point perspective going off the page. Once the vanishing point is outside of the plane, I think it's best to go to two point perspective, otherwise you'll get some very skewed perspective. I made a little graphic to help explain this.
This is my understanding anyway. I've got a lot to learn too, so take this with a grain of salt. Hopefully you can understand what I mean though!
also, here's a link to a good set of exercises to go through: perspective 101
Will be posting up my progress later after finishing some homework.
Yo yo yo! Hope you're having a good holiday, and I must say I learnt something reading that comment on vanishing points. xD
Anyways, looking forward to seeing more of your stuff, merry christmass! and or any other seasonal holiday you choose to follow~
Thanks, Naidy. It's Christmas tomorrow, but I don't follow it and here in (my part of) China there are no signs of it other than incessant Jingle-Bells-Frosty-the-Snowman-Silver-Bells-The-Christmas-Song-playing in the shops. My homework remains completely undone. Sigh.
Went to the bookstore today - books in China are ridiculously cheap compared to buying on Amazon or Singaporean specialty art bookstores. Here's the list:
- Scott McCloud - Making Comics - 49RMB
- Scott McCloud - Understanding Comics - 49RMB
- Bridgman - Complete Guide to Drawing From Life - 65RMB
- Nikolay N. Repin (grandson of Ilya Repin) - (rough translation) Russia Repin Art School Advanced Drawing Course...Thing? My Chinese isn't that great. - 120RMB - It was the last one left, glad I got it.
Grand total: 283RMB ~= 55.53SGD ~= 42USD ~= 27GBP. Only problem now is that they're in Chinese. Oh well I can brush up on my language skills while reading them
I succumbed to gadget lust and bought an Intuos4 for myself. The horror stories about the friction between pen and tablet might be true - two days in and the drawing surface is already looking pretty badly scuffed in one region. It took me 2 years of drawing with the old tablet to get that kind of wear.
So, testing it out (see attachment). I'm finding it really difficult to detach myself from thinking in terms of coloring-book outlines. A hangover from earlier times.
I had an idea for a picture (it has baby fauns!) and sketched out a composition but when I started drawing the figures it was fail and I was sad.
Just because something doesn't work first time, try it again but think what went wrong the first time and try not to repeat it.
mum is dragging me out to buy medicine, interrupting my work on photo study. Her face looking iffy because I did something wrong with the eyes. Will fix later.
(photo: monica fadul)
edit: explanation for marlee -- and a few more words because I didn't have space.
general colors = red-orange (from skin and for general warming up), brown (pretty obvious), green (dress and background) and I put the black there for fun but I didn't actually use it. Later on I realized I needed yellow so picked it out, but I think in general you shouldn't do that too often unless doing final accents, so it looks more harmonious.
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being interrupted while studying is always a drag--especially when that certain someone could take offense to 'not now, i'm busy'. ;o;
i try to make the best of the situation and reflect on what i've learned, maybe even seeing real life examples of it when i'm out. There's also the fresh view on your piece when you get back to it, which can open yourself up to errors that you overlooked while working hard on it
wow incredible improvement in 5 pages. I love all this perspective stuff you've done. I have the Whit Brachna dvds and after seeing all this hard work I think I'll be watching them again to get a better confidence with the construction of it all.
Just keep on drawing, no crits for you because you are definitely going in the right direction.
Woah, that last one there is looking bloody good. It seems you're getting a great understanding of colours.
My only crit is the shadows in the refference are more spread on her face, but I'm sure you're already working your way to doing that.
Keep up the good work mate!
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I added a wee bit more shadow to her face.My only crit is the shadows in the reference are more spread on her face, but I'm sure you're already working your way to doing that.
hücumkedi - I'll try!
Black Spot - ah, sage advice. I think I will re-attempt the fauns in half a year.
a la bapsi - FreakAngels!
ThomasM - I haven't really done any perspective stuff other than fret about it, hehe. Credit for that nifty diagram goes to eekolite.
aargh JPG compression artifacts! I'm leaving this one here for now. Screwed up bits and pieces but this first photo study was loads of fun.
Though I'm getting a bit worried about being shackled to reference now. My imagination work is getting worse.
The texture and rendering of that study are very nice. Definitely keep on with the anatomy and also positive/negative space relationship studies as there are a few issues there.
For your imagination work, make sure to do some drawings or sketches from your head after doing a batch of say anatomy studies. If you draw some figures from photos, make sure to follow up with some figures from your head. Try to focus on at least one thing that you learned from the batch of studies to improve in your imagination studies. Try to use photostudies as a way to build your visual library, not just an exercise in copying.
But good work overall, keep at it.
eek - positive/negative space relationship? (I know what +/- are but not sure what you mean in this context)
#1 - previously mentioned guy with beer
#3 - then a doodle based on the same pose (not showing up for me??)
#2 - just some drawings off Bridgman to understand the concept of head, ribs and torso being fixed 'blocks' in the figure. Did some hand studies trying to get marlee's clean line. failed. tried again with pen hoping it would force my strokes to be more decisive. failed again. The faces are mine (except orange girl at bottom right) but they don't look a bit like me. oops
hand studies were fun though, I used a different method (blocking in general outline with straight line then going back to refine) as compared to usual contour method. I think this helps me keep on proportion better.
due on Monday are three A3 sized detailedish drawings/paintings which are supposed to express the concepts I am interested in pursuing for coursework. would be a piece of cake except i have no bloody idea what I want to do gffgfgfgf
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On the second image in this post, everything is leaning down and to the left! Although, maybe it's the way you took the picture. Either way, I feel like I'm gonna slide away
Some nice things are happening with your colors in #137
It's comforting to see another manga-influenced artist going through the same thing I am. As I'm significantly lower-level than you, I can't critique at all. I can tell there are little iffy bits, but other users have already mentioned them.
Sorry I can't be of help. If you're one to be inspired by praise, I can safely say you're doing quite well in adapting a new style (I know how hard it is to break away from manga).
kiwi yes, it was the way I took the picture...sorry bout that
boriol thank you! but now I feel a little lost, stuck neither here nor there in a weird limbo. It feels sometimes like I have lost any individual style I used to have.
The teachers told me I'm not allowed to post anything relating to coursework for the rest of the year lest I get an irregularity report from the examiners. coursework will be making up most of the artwork I produce this year, I think, which means the things I am allowed to post here might be more boring, just studies and things.
But I guess I can show some pictures of my new school workspace which I painted on Wednesday. Painted the table too, not sure how the teachers will feel about that. I feel so lucky to have been assigned this little studio. It is a lot less cluttered than my room at home, which is filled with piles of lecture notes everywhere. There is no space at home for doing anything larger than A4 size. The watercolor on the board is something I wanted to show...but yeah. The drawing was done during a lecture though, so one figure is like 1.5x the size of the rest (oops)
<image removed after teachers scared us today with consequences of posting images online - anyway it was a pic of my desk with a painting on it>
The only problem is the computer is so SLOW! so I just use it for playing music.
I don't want to get moved out of this space! But I might because these large cubicles are reserved for those doing animation, which I'm definitely not doing.
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Nice study space! You even get your own kettle?
Also, I really like the first sketch on post 139. Anyways, this is Concept art, I don't think we get tired of seeing 'boring studies' the imaginitve stuff is like the cherry on the top.
Anyways, I noticed your reply to Boriol. I think nearly everyone our age has had to go through that very awkward transition from generic manga to realism and finally our own style. I know I got stuck at a point where I was trying to do anything but manga and didn't realize I was giving everyone flat squares for faces. Litterally.
But you'll push past it- infact, it looks like you're already doing so! Just don't lose faith inyourself.
Keep up the good work mate.
hallo thurr krysj! thx for dropping by my sketchbook-- looks like you're busy and i look forward to the studies you will be doing for school ^^" it's a shame they won't let u post anything else aside from school work but hopefully you can sneak in some of your own stuff hehehe oh and the answer to your question on my sketchbook-- i don't really know exactly what that is but to my understanding it's kind of a landmark for the joint and aligned with the ankle bone when the leg is bent all the way if it interests you further-- it's in Hogarth's Dynamic Figure Drawing book!
naidy thank you very much for the encouragement. You are very sweet. (also, that felt weird - calling someone older 'sweet'. hmm)
I just found out today that our Singapore A-levels and your A-levels are rather different. Wikipedia says Singapore A-levels are ridiculously difficult (well more difficult than international standards anyway) for one thing. And that you have some AS/A2 thingy where your A-levels are split up into two exams.
teapo - ok, thanks for the book reference!
so, some pics from GP class.
also, I just discovered this today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcsRl_LIJHA (Argerich plays Scarlatti, Sonata K. 141)
blows my mind. If I tried playing at even half of that speed (see 00:24) I think I'd just get a million bruises on my fingers. Damage the nail matrix or something.
You are too young and pretty much experienced with your art.
That combination is such a great thing. It is bad news that
your teacher is not letting you to post some things. That will
reduce most of your art amount here on conceptart. However, we will
be glad to see some other studies, you just keep on working hard.
I guess that I saw that you are doing all kind of studies, going through
the few pages of your sketchbook, all I can suggest is for you to do
more of them. Also do not forget about anatomy studies.
#137, very nice referenced painting. Do not worry, your imaginaries will
not go bad because you do a few referenced ones. You just mix them up
nicely, and there will be no problem. Will try to follow your work from now on,
that is if you will follow mine.
All these talented teenagers on this site make me envious. If only I could draw as well at their age!
Everything is better with dinosaurs.
Hey, you're totally welcome mate. And I know what you mean. I have a terrible habit of addressing everyone as 'lad/lass' if I say it to the wrong people, they get really annoyed xD
And I had no idea about how our A levels differed! I feel sorry for you, but you're a hard worker so I'm sure you'll do well. Wish you the best of luck.
Your knowledge of form and colouring is really advancing well. I'd like to see some more paintings done in daylight, and possibly a few landscapes.
Please check out my Deviantart page: http://lucidstillness.deviantart.com/
Also, please check out my sketchbook thread!
And while you're at it, why not check out my finished gallery thread too! http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=202283
Plissken, Trex thank you both.
Naidy it's not fair graaaaargh
Ultarant yes, I have been meaning to try doing some landscape/environment pics. Will shift that to the top of my to-draw list.
so I just tried playing one note repeatedly at high speed (see previous post) and the key couldn't even come up fast enough for me to do it how does Argerich do it!
today's pics are from a) choir - something funny going on with my throat for two weeks now, can't hit high notes properly and all that, so I took a break today and didn't sing - and b) two hour block of announcements, updates on school construction work etc. (b) is really not much though and I didn't want to put it here at first. But this is supposed to be a 'sketchbook' so oh well. I'm quite happy with today's updates. I feel like I accomplished something, somehow. Like I broke through some barrier of epic suck for female faces. Now have to repeat that for everything else. The full sheet of paper has more drawings; only about half are shown here.
lastly...anyone good with C/C++ :
I often use the float datatype to handle tasks that involve decimals e.g. computing money. So I declare float money = 100.89; or something like that. My compiler tells me that this is actually a truncation from 'double' to 'float', and I understand why this is so. Would using double to handle decimals be better (lower severity in truncation, maybe?) - and if so, why does float even exist? Why not just use double all the time? Is it to save on memory space?
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