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it's really a bad thing if you quit doing art
just i want to tell you a quote that i always tell it to myself when i'm feel lazy or want to give up
( " Make up your mind and do it or dont and whichever you chose , don't cry about it , because it was your choice " )
we hope to see new stuff
Hey there, was browsing my old sb and noticed you posted in there a couple years ago so I came here. I'll chime in with something because I identify with your feelings about art and dreams.
I myself am very old by art improvement standards. I'm 35+ and even though I've been drawing my whole life I've never been properly trained with art. I used to think I'm a good artist until I came along to websites such as this one and realized I suck. While I've worked on improving I've made very slow strides forward, little by little. I'd love to be able to work as a concept artist but it's not going to happen. I've been working as an Engineer as a contractor for NASA for 10 years now, and there's no way that my art will ever make the kind of $ I make now or will make in the future as an engineer.
There are days I want to give up on my art too. But there's something inside which always comes out. While I've given up on my dream of ever being anything more than an occasional freelancer I'll never stop with my art. These days I do it for myself. While my skill has went up as I've actually had a lot of requests to do work for other people it's not worth it for me. When someone offers me $200 for a painting that will take me a good 40 hours to make, it's just not for me.
At the beginning of 2010 I actually went through an art depression that lasted about 10 months. I got burned out during the TEAM CHOW on this website, and while I don't think we should've won the voting results affected me negatively. Same thing happens with sketchbooks. I see you have 3 stars, and I know when I had 3 stars it bothered me. I know these things shouldn't matter, but they do.. and they all contribute to lowering your self esteem as an artist. It takes a continual effort to recognize these things, push forward despite them, and do what you want to do.
You seem to have the right ideas about improving and the steps you need to take to get to your end destination. Maybe your end destination isn't with visual art at all, and that's fine. But don't make blanket statements about quitting drawing, because you're only limiting yourself. If you need to take a break from this site, the community, or art in general for a while DO IT. It will be better for you in the long term.
Anyways, I'm not sure why I bothered posting this here including personal details, but something in your situation speaks to me very clearly. You and I have kinship through our art efforts. Just hang in there, don't let the bad drag you down, and do what you want to do (even if that's making crappy artwork with the intent of improving like I do.)
I am going to reply to all comments on wednesday.
Just wanted to say that my exams are nearly over (wednesday last exam) and I am going to have more freee time again!
Because I am already missing art that much i start doing stuff again! ^.^
Can't wait to start again and this (short) break was very good in my opinion.
I will tell you everything on wednesday.
Nice sketchbook! I'm glad you started drawing again, looking forward to the new update Sometimes it can be good to take a break for a while and then look at your own art with new eyes!
-ven- Here's the art! But sometimes i will play these games ;P I want to get a conceptartist for games, so i need to play a little bit games too!
Charmer Hehe, thanks!
Evergrey Thanks my dear! You are totally right. Feels great to have a new start.
Niva. Thanks dude. Gave me a nice insight of what you went through and helped me organizing my minds too.
WaSsiM Depressive phase was not that long as you see. Here i am again to fill your mind with art
dierat I stopped drawing completely and doing a few things already made me under pressure imo, so it's good i made a pause.
I think I got away from this extrem pressure phase.
Voodoo_Mama Right now it is my hobby after this break But it would be cool to see it as my job in the future.
I am doing a few things everday and i am trying to get back to a nice amount of stuff everday.
No pressure, so i keep things calm.
Also no daily updates, i am going to update when i feel like updating i think...
Last edited by Lukas Esch; December 3rd, 2011 at 06:40 PM.
Great update, loving that penguin study like crazy! (even though I'm mad at you for ignoring the little black feathers all over it's body, because they are great both for colour and for texture purposes.)The eye study looks great too, the original picture looks a bit tricky because it is so pixely
I think you would benefit a lot from studying the human anatomy, sites like posemaniacs could be of a good help. Love your dedication to draw a little every day. It's stuff like that that makes you improve Have fun and keep it up br0!
Your figures are very stiff, their limbs are like sticks, sorry, you need flowier lines, some loose gesture studies, maybe? It's not easy I know very well...
I don't agree, gestures are fun, if you can free your mind. It is good when youyou need flowier lines, some loose gesture studies, maybe? It's not easy I know very well...
are taking your time to draw. But it is not good to think about a nice clean drawing which is gonna be here.
That will make your drawings stiff !
Lose up get some scrap paper and don't even think about them being posted
think about having fun,......!!
I am doing stuff every evening until night right now because during the day I don't have the time.
My mum went out of hospital and during the day I have to look after her, so I paint during the night.
I had a few livestreams the last few days and I got GREAT help every stream.
In my opinion I am learning quite a lot at the moment.
Especially when it comes to digital painting and fundamentals (like edges and values).
Right now I don't have the time and motivation to upload all my drawings and paintings, but when i get more time I will start updating again.
If you want to contact me, add me in Skype or try to catch me up during one of my streams ( at http://livestream.com/silwynar.
And because it's Christmas this day:
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY! I am going to make another post for new year but that's another story.
Nice to see you back, and I really like that Seagull study.
The Louisianian Sketchbook You can Comment and Criticize if you want.
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My Facebook Site I normally hate these kinds of websites, but a friend of mine invited me.
Louisianian artists thread If you're from or live in Louisiana, don't hesitate to post here.
My Profile Nothing else needs to be said.
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Sickbrush Thanks Chris. You too!
FightingSeraph Hey! Glad to see you still alive on the forums too. Thanks!
Alex Eh Yup she's fine so far Alex. Now it's just a matter of time.
Finished my study from the stream of yesterday and I liked it so much that I just though about posting it right now.
In my opinion it's a huge step toward because I finally made it able to make my painting DON'T look cartoony / comic.
I applied everything Faust and Zombietooth taught me during my streams so I am quite happy with the result.
Keep those studies coming.
Your back and forth battles about
doing and not doing art are epic,
and I am happy that you made
the right choice in the end.
Hey Lukas, Make sure you are keeping everything relative. Some of the details are off, like the crack isn't close enough to the eye.The eye brow? above the eye is the wrong spot and miss shaped. Another then that looks freakin awesome, keep it up dude!
Cool update, it looks really great! Looking forward to see your updates
ven- Thanks my friend
LtPlissken Thanks dude. Without you there would be definitely a person missing in this forum!
~Faust~ But only nice with your help. Thanks!
Diarum Now as you said I saw it. Damn, but overall I focused on the form and edges. Next time! Thanks for critique.
Evergrey Thanks mew, evergrey, or however i should call you.
Creusa It didn't, did it? Such a bad study, there's no reason why it should have made ya evening´... Anyway, thanks!
Happy new year everyone!
I am so happy for all the support you all gave me during 2011!
It was definitely a crazy year with many ups and downs, but everytime all of you were there again to help me get up.
The flow to draw and paint everyday is there and it's like somebody pressed a button inside me.
I am not living anymore for getting an concept artist someday...
I am living just to draw every damn day with joy.
2012 is going to be an even better year with all you guys.
I hope some of you will be with me when streaming and giving me critiques and all that stuff.
I just want to kick off the show this year!
Special thanks go to...
...my lovely ConceptArt skype group which is AWESOME!
There are so many information and fun inside this group.
...sickbrush (it's a shame that i met you that late) who keeps my motivation bar up and up with all his crazy stuff! Thanks dude!
...~faust~ who kicks my ass everytime we chat. But I enjoy our talks and your critique. Thanks!
...rama looke - Don't know why but i want your name to be here!
...all others who supported me and are not listed here!
Thanks again and watch out for my new update on 2nd Jan.
PS: Just everything I drew or painted around the last time. I just wanted to get rid of it before my journey starts.
Compare this portrait study with the first ones you posted here. It seems you have a lot more control over your lines now as they don't look as random as they did around the time of your first post.
Lips coming out nice (Nemesis, arrrgh!)
My advice would be to practice line flow, so your drawings and painting don't look so stiff. Maybe you could fill a lot of A4 or A3 sized sheets of paper with loose lines before drawing gestures.
Keep it up and good luck for 2012!
Sapphirelullaby Thanks! I hope i will manage it, but why should there a reason not to manage it? Let's go!
-Marin- Thanks. Really need to get more flow into my lines. I should watch Villpu's videos again. They should help me too.
First post in 2012.
Quite happy with this day.
I was overall tired, but for the first day my ouput is "okay".
Spend like the half day with driving into the next city with my dad because his printer went dead with a decent error.
R.I.P. Printer... ;__;
L.I.P. NEW printer!
Just took me a half century with my dad. But I spend time with him so it's okay
The rest of the day I needed to finish this linoprint / linocut for school.
I don't really like art in normal school. Things that are useless and just for getting grades.
Here it is.
TOPIC: Carpe Diem
PS: Forgot to tell that we are going to print it in school. I don't have the print here to do it.
EDIT: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! New page with this piece of shit. DAMN IT! <.<
I lost my post and my keyboard battery is low. In short:
Kickass skull. Like the tree and portrait.
Figures: Agree with -Marin-. Centerline is flowier in new stuff but limbs needs work.