Head study (from Ron Lemen'd head drawing video)
Hey PG good updates and well done for not slacking with it being the holidays! Glad to see you've got the Ron Lemen head videos. I have it to and it's helping me a lot to understand that method of drawing heads which I think in turn is helping me get better proportions and keep the features in line. Well done you, just keep it up.
Hey, sorry I didn't stop back in here sooner! You're really coming along here mate. Your gestures are giving a real sense of action and pose.
To start getting more well defined shapes rather than unspecific ovals and such, I'd suggest doing periods of intense study on one bodypart at a time. So you could could draw a few pages of legs, go through the bridgman pages on legs and then draw what you learned from imagination. This way, when you jump back into gestures you'll have a better intuitive knowledge of what curves and bony landmarks are on the leg and the shape will be much more convincing.
Also, try to think about lines as indicators of 3d forms instead of 2d shapes that outline the edges of a figure. I find that this helps to start thinking more about 3 dimensional forms and making them look like they exist in space instead of on a page.
Just a couple thoughts, take what you find useful and discard the rest! Good luck, keep going as much as you can and you'll do great.
Thanks for the drop-by to my SB-- sorry to be so long in visiting-- but I like to work through people's SBs before commenting.
Generally, I think you are doing all the right kinds of studies. It was good to see you studying Hamm because there is much fundamental stuff in there that I think many other students of drawing tend to ignore.
Re gesture: think of it as "cursive sketching" (like cursive writing)-- don't be afraid to knock out a continuous line that moves over, across and through the thing you are drawing.
Major crit: proportions. I'd say you should spend more time measuring the relationships between your subjects' component pieces in the rough sketch stage. Example: try to work out the SIZES of arms and legs in relation to the body in loose, light, and straight lines before jumping to contour. Also, "map" your shadows before shading-- take a look at the work of E.M. Gist here on CA!
Otherwise, keep on truckin'!
goood to see you working on your gestures and figures. Anatomy studies are looking good too, make sure you really try and imprint those in your mind by attempting them from imagination to highlight the missing points in your memory.
No crits really other than to just keep working away and rack up the pages!
Marian, eekolite, Kamber, ThomasM - Thanks for stopping by. Your comments are appreciated!
quick gestures and spherical forms
Hey man good work, paying off! Your starting to get a feel of the rythm of a pose with those quick gestures. this is very important to starting a drawing. Then from there, build your forms(cylinders,boxes) on those rythm strokes to create volume. Then lay in your your contour lines right on top of those forms. Work from life, draw what you see!!!
Thanks for stopping by my sb. A good anatomy book is always helpful. Peck, bridgeman...
Damn dude, looking good.
Don't forget though, all work and no play......
Marian - I think you found one if I can say so myself! Thanks
brentos8 - that's awesome that you see some rhythm in the gestures. I'm pushing toward cubes and cylinders next. Got some anatomy books on order and figure drawing begins soon. Thanks for the advice!
Jay Dee - thanks man. I feel like I'm not working hard enough though. Hopefully all work no play makes me a better artist. Besides drawing gestures is play for me
Gestures, self portrait, dining room from life
wow! so much work, and dedication! i love it!
although my only critique might be to flesh out some of these gestures, or focus on 1-2 pieces and really carry them out.
the latest gestures are really starting to get a serious sense of movement, but don't get too carried away with only studies
keep posting, it's an inspiration for me!
Dope Fiend - Thanks a lot! You're right, I need to start fleshing out some forms. This is actually my plan so expect some fleshed out figures soon
Marian - Thanks. Trying to mix it up a bit doing drawings from life as well as photos
Gestures and figures from ref
self portrait in charcoal
Ahh, glad to see you're back pg! Missed you here for a couple weeks. Love the studies man! I'd give more specific crits, but sounds like from your comments that you're on the right track (anatomy books on order, life drawing etc.)
You know what to do! Just really nail the anatomy and life drawing at this stage. Don't be afraid to try some creative works as well. Studies are definitely key, but you have to train your creativity too.
Good luck man!
eekolite - Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate the comments.
Marian - Thanks!
Gestures from photo ref
Box forms from photo ref
Cubes from imagination
Some gestures from photo reference and figure from two life drawing sessions.
Looking good, man. Just keep going and you'll get there. I see some nice gems popping up in your life drawing.
I suggest doing some studies of the skeleton. The reason is that fleshy landmarks (like important points of reference) shift around a lot based on pose, body type, weight, etc. Skeletal landmarks are more or less going to be the sturdiest foundation for gestures/figures/etc. If you know say, the seventh cervical vertebrae (a large one that sticks out of your neck) and the pit of the neck (a hollow created by the clavicles meeting the sternum) create a slanted circle around the neck, you can more easily place the head/ribcage/neck.
Here's a great lecture if you're interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xLVXeizNi8. There's more in the series, but only one on youtube.
Sorry if you already know some of this, but if you don't I'd say take a look - it might help out down the line.
Keep it up!
I really love how much better your line quality got. I saw you did a few muscle studies. A good hint my teacher told me about remembering muscles was to actually touch that muscle a few times while saying the name of it out loud, Hope that helps. Other then that I must say I really love that comment you made on the very first post
eekolite - I really want to spend some time with the skeleton. I keep hearing and reading about landmarks on the skeleton as you describe but I have not studied them yet. I'm starting to work through some Bridgman and another figure book whose author's name eludes me right now. Both cover the skeleton/bones and muscle which I hope has some figure landmark info. Thanks for the link to the video. I took a quick look at it and it looks interesting. I'll check it out this weekend.
Umbravita - thanks a lot! I'm concentrating heavily on studies right now because I'm nowhere near where I want to be as far as my skill level goes. But you make a good point. I might try for a few fleshed out figures occasionally.
Marian - The one instructed class I'm in ("Dynamic Figure Drawing and Painting") is very structured with specific instructions given. We did blind contours (which drive me crazy) and various methods of gesture which you see. This class promises to be interesting in that I'm going to learn all kinds of approaches to the figure. So keep an eye out for more variety in my sketchbook!
CrinaC - Thanks! Concerning muscle and bones, when I study them from a book I look at several reference images and also use a mirror to see them on myself. You are right, touching the muscle really helps. You can feel where it originates, how it curves and moves and things of that nature. Also I've found using a direct light source can make the forms very visible which helps as well.
- Before class - cubes and sphere from imagination, gray scales from different charcoal brands
- Figures from life - 5 minute gestures and 20 - 30 minute poses
bi an tri color gestures from life, 16X20 newsprint, graphite and crayon.
Umbravita and Marian - Thanks for the comments!
First oil painting from life ever!
Marian - I'm taking an intro to oil painting class once a week now that covers how to handle oils, brushes, color theory. It is a hands on class so I'll be painting still life, landscape, and a figure(s). I really didn't feel ready for oil painting but this class is on a day I had free, sounded interesting and is an intro class for beginners. Plus if I wait to when I "feel" ready that could be a long ways away. Best to jump on an opportunity when it presents itself I think. I still am devoting most of my art time to drawing though. Thanks for the encouragement. I hope my first unfinished painting didn't burn your eyes too badly
- 30 and 60 second gestures from photos
- Gesture from photo and lastly a WIP on top of the gesture using measuring techniques to get the proportions
Bet you're having fun breaking into oil!
Suprasternal Notch (top of sternum)
Epigastric Notch (bottom of sternum/may show xiphoid process)
[And, pretty much the whole sternum itself.]
7th cervical vertebrae
"Pelvic Points" (technically the Anterior Superior Iliac Spines of the pelvis)
Posterior Superior Iliac Spines of pelvis-- forms dimples of the "sacral triangle."