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Hello to you all!
So decided to take big step to gather all possible and knowable information about Uk univerisities who have illustration courses (also including computer games art,game art design and other similair courses) and make easier way to decide us where go study witch course to choose.
Maybe is gonna be easier for me talking about my personal goals and searchings of what i expect of illustration course and how i imagine it must be( it's gonna be like review or rate system with some notes and goals. Eatch of goal will be considered and compared plius added personal or other person experience.The way i do this is good because it probably will touch every aspect of what we are expecting from illustration course).
The main goal of this thread is to help each other, to gather all valuable information about courses and universities. So i will begin and raiting system simple. + is really good, +/- so so, - bad.
Here it goes ( 13 goals also you can add your to if i didnt mentioned or forgoten somthing important)
Univeristy ( example UWE,Bournemotuh) and course( example Illustration Ba)
Well i really want to move to a big city,where life is fast. Many different people,a lot of oppurtunities, a lot of places to visit, so living in big city would be very exciting and inspires every artistic person. Also to have opportunities to go to museums,art galleries,concerts ( wohoo wanna see David Gray and Nizlopi) live music,pubs and of course mister king - football ( i really wanna see some premiere league games, as myself im Liverpool supporter). And big city such London, as example makes big impact to career because this is center of industry, a lot of companies,possibilities to find job, and on other hand its gonna be tough, many illustrators wanna reach it, so it will be competitive.
2. TRAVELLING-SHOWS-ART EXIBITIONS
Well UK is one of bigest industries of illustration, but other travelling or exchange experinec would be great too, so Erasmus, Universities exchange programs,sandwich year, work experience in company,travelling to other cities would big plus.( USA,Canada,Australia,France they also have big industries,universities and courses and they do digital art/painting/concept art/animation,so have contact with them would be great chance to improve yourslef after uk studies).
3. OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOW YOUR ART TO THE WORLD
Well this is all about your own self-advertisement, to be noticeable it's big advantage to break into industry and get job,so you have to know how and where to show your masterpieces and i hope university can help you out wiht competitions,arrangeing exibtions as also it's your own problam to upload your artwork in such a pages as conceptart.org,cgtalk.com,deviantart.com or personal page and show your links to everyone.
4. OTHER PEOPLE OPINIONS. PRESENT, FUTURE , POSTGRADUATED STUDENTS THOUGTHS ABOUT COURSE AND UNIVERSITY
So basically we get all information talking with each other,searching in web pages,replaying emails to univeristy stuff, talking and chating with friends. It's one of main reason to us to choose what course or university.
5. WEB PAGE. LINKS. IT PORTFOLIOS, STUDENT WORKS
Also you gan get some understanding and better idea of course and university from they web page,they usually provide us with so basic information about course,how to apply,pics,videos sometimes and student of that course works, but most of them aren't really helpful, even some are bad, sometimes you get confused if that uni knows anything about art courses,because page its badly design and give impression that you wanna study medicine or something but not art.( also it would be nice what in notice 5. you would past links,web,student works and useful information)
6. STUDENT WORKS, EXPERIENCE AND WHAT THEY DO WHERE IN THE COURSES
Another big aspect why we choose that course or uni are other students works( because everyone of us wanna be reach new levels and improve as former student). Who is now studying in uni is biggest impacts to newcomers.But really strange i didn't found so much great works, that vaxed me a little,maybe they only show works that they have to do or only tasks,or just tutors cant upload properly works,also personal,sketches are only in they sketchbook or here in conceptart profile.
7.OPPURTUNITY TO FIND A JOB AFTER GRADUATION AND DIPLOMA VALUE
The reason why we go to univeristy is to be good specialist after graduated course and improve ourselves and be ready for competitive industry.The Diploma is like a prove that you are great sepcialist as also good portfolio, you have intellegent thingking and you are ready to begin to work, everyone of us hoping what your diploma will impress our future employer.
8. LETURERS AND TUTORS
To have a great teacher and friend it's a big plus and impact also advantage.They must teach you and show best of them,all they experience and knowledge must be in your hands,so high rated and experienced tutors( its like football manger) who are loving to work with students,chat with them as equal,to guide and help them out with they solutions is what great tutor must be.The worst thing that could happend is that you are more experienced and have more knowledge when your tutor, and its reallys shite one of your modules or even course can be waste of time.
9. COURSES,MODULES,WHAT THEM TEACH YOU
Most important is course structure and modules,what they gonna teach us, and how they are organised.Well as for me,im will be international so i will probably have to find half part job, so i will have try even more harder,i hope i will make it. And also its just personal view,what im expect from illustration or game art design,animation course.
-Strong basics of drawing,colour theory,composition
-Drawing life,like people,figures,faces,portraits.Anatomy lessons( of course everything you must do on your own and keep practising,but what will be also very good)
-Painting,acryls,colour understandin, mixing oils and some stuff. Very strong lessons about lighting and shadows.
-Computing-digital painting and drawing with wacoms, work with photoshop,painter and Z brush.
-Some theories about illustration and digital works
-Industry experience and freelancers who atteding to modules,chat with them,hear solutions and help to make strong protfolio to be ready game,film,magazines industry
-Competitions and posability to arrange personal and uk wide exibitions
-Oppurtunity to work in studios 24/7 h
Well this is my personal list that im expect from studies
10. WORKING FACILITIES
Che,well everyone of us wanna work with two macs and wacom a4 tablet, but still bascially we expect something like what and have personal working area, powerful computer and work in studios all day long.
11. INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS AND FOR THOSE WHO ENDED BACHLOR STUDIES
It's gonna be very useful if you can share your experience being international in your course,what and how you applied to uni,living,working and so on,and also share your experience after graduating that course and what you are doing now
12. CONCEPT ART/DIGITAL PAINTING
Well these are illustration categories but for me its most important ones,because illustration course for me as i planning, would be a guide to reach new levels and be somekind new Jason Chan or Andrew Jones or other great 2d artists and conceptualists. I really wanna avoid the illustration course where they teach only to be arty and create weard understanding of drawing, and belive after that you are really great illustrator or artist,but really only thing you will able to do is draw like five years old child, do not able to draw or paint,dont understand anatomy and act as mighty artist who overpass everyone,so basically whats that i see myself,what i wanna learn and how im really determinated to reach it.
13. PORTFOLIO AND APPLYING TO UNI
Main preparation to get info to applying,all needful inforamtion about preparing portfolio,what kind of works you must have,motivation letter,essays, other useful info to impress uni and also chat about a and b routs posibilities.
14. CONTACTS. YOUR OWN WORKS AND STUFF
Here leave your any contact to have more personal questions and leave link with your work to have better idea what are you doing and how cool you are!
Skype - nick : feegaroo if someone wanna chat with me
email@example.com - my mail also you cna whrite me pm
And here is my work links-
http://yellowcardas.deviantart.com/gallery/ - my main works
http://yellowcardas.deviantart.com/g..._browse/scraps - some sraps and sketches
http://www.youtube.com/user/Yellowcardas#/uploads - my video works and movies, some effects and tutorials.
Thanks a lot for trying help me and others, so make 14, points about your course, your experience,recomendations.
All of you Have Nice summer days and enjoy i hope this helpful thread.
So here it goes
Well okay i start first o will write about Bristol Uwe Univeristy and Illustration course,because now they are my number one,so i checked all threads and forum,sites to get much information about course and what i know will share with you,also waiting for any help to make more experinced and better information when mine.Ps its only my knowledge and information what i have.
University Of West England.Illustration Ba course
1.City is Bristol.One of the biggest Uk cities, they are in top 10, so its big and really nice city( most seen pics and video)so its kind what im searching,big city and a lot of places to go, a lot to see, and i thinking if i choose Bristol and they accept me,when after gradutaion it would perfect to try find job in London. So defintally plus + for city. Well Bristol do not have premiere league team but still they are in second: p
2.Do not have any information about this section, i only now they habe erasmus program in second year( but i was in my life erasmus,so this oppurtunity not for me ) Cant say anything much about exibitions,and other univerisitie travellings so its +/-
3.Che, in they site where is some info what illustration course students won some prizes in some competition,seen animation video about work( with planes and war,its really nice done.) So plus but not big enough + lack information about other contests or industry experience.
4.I only heard good opinions and everyone fancy these studies in Uwe,its like one of the best Illustration courses in Uk,so i think a lot people know what they talk. Big plus +
5.Well they page is quite cool,nice designed, everything clear, but where is no students work, bu i think i had founded one page where was some students works but they really dont impress me. So +/-
And here is link for the Illustration course:
6.Hmm i didnt seeany student works only from conceptart users who going now for Uwe Illustration course and they are really good,so the level probably are high, and from they skethes i saw that they do digital drawings and paintings. so plus +
7.Ogh this section its empty for me ;/ so i dont rate
8.Again no info,just few looks in stuff works and they dont impress me,so again no rate here.
9.I heared what they have wacom tablets,so they work digitally,and also have free drawing lessons where you can attend or not its your choise.Also dont have any good info,they site talk bla bla and what not gives any info, atleast modules with description would be nice Plus + but not big
10.I think they work with macs and as i said have wacom a5 or a4 probably so its quite enough, about faculty and studios i dont know :/ Still big plus +
11.Nothing, just empty here.
12.Well from what i seen in oficial part works i wasnt really happy about they works so its good,but i have hope because concept art users who are Bristol uwe students have quite good sketches,so maybe it only misunderstading. +/- Not shore what to expect here.
13From cp forums and other i heard its really hard to get so you must try hard as you can or gave brilliant portfolio.Plus because you will high work rate and have to prove youare tallent +
14. All info in preivuos post.
So here it goes first attempt maybe it will help someone and hope someone will help me out with this course.