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purb36 - youre very right.. Its so hard drawing from imagination and knowing it sucks so bad.. Im gonna try though. Thankss man
Heres some practicing Loomis head construction from my head without the book. Im starting to feel the sphere in space. Then a Sargent study. I need to do so much fucking more
some photoshop doodles.. bird from photo obviously.. exploring color.. something i tend to shy away from and a spoon from life.. i think its my first ever painting of a metallic object. reflections are toughhh but fun
Keep going with the head studies, get those measurements and angles of the face down. You need to burn that info into your memory so it becomes second nature.So when you are making up stuff and creating faces, or drawing from life you have those checkpoints and formulas solidly in your mind to pull from.
My thoughts on Photoshop, don't treat it like traditional materials it has its own tricks and techniques that you need to pick up. I would suggest hunting down vids and tuts on painting in photoshop.
Sunseaker - thanks man..... your right.
Zazerzs - ya man theres so much to remember its killin me... and about photoshop.. I honestly never know how to approach a damn photoshop painting.. its always just doing whatever feels right.. I need some lessons for sure.
Some more studies... Bridgman, Photos, and Loomis heads
some Loomis head studies... still trying to cement proportions and construction into my brain.
Then some life studies. a penny and a plug
I keep staying in my comfort zone of book copying and life studies.. Sure its helping my observation but If I dont start drawing people fronm my head... Im never going to reach my goals
After the copies, close the book and try to draw as many as you can from memory, that way it will enforce what you just did. Then the next day try it with out the reference and see how far you can get. Refer back to the book if you need to
I'm practicing the same thing now, just to brush up on em
Zazerzs is wicked smart, take his advice. Drawing from the brain is super esential, I need to go practice that too. Are you doing much spying on people? Because thats a really fun way to learn anatomy and posture too. Go to a mall, find a person and follow them around drawing them. Try and get as close as you can! It's crazy fun! I got in a lift with a guy, he had no clue. Score!
Thanks Zaz, the thing is Ive been told that so many times and It makes perfect sense.. I just dont do it. Im so rediculous sometimes.
Well heres some crap.. not everything Ive drawn but its more of the same crap. some Studies, some imagination, trying to have fun above all.. its actually working Some Wes Burt mixed in.. I learn so much when I copy him.
holy crap an update
good to see some more drawings
you must be busy,keep on going
and yes have fun with it.
Heres some stuff.. Studies, Loomis Planes, Life, photos, etc. And the start of a Frazetta study. I absolutely love this painting. Im hoping to get some advice on things that Ive missed... measurements, proportions, angles, etc. I probably wont do it in color.. just pencil. Im trying to be patient and nail everything before rendering.. I just wanna do it soo badd.
I dropped a bottle of water on my fucking tablet today and its fried.. so thats a problem. Time to save up for a new one. Peace out!!!!
what you did with the silhouette of the face is a pretty sweet start. why not do it all like that, less with line? but, it depends on what you're going for. doing more with tone will train you for painting. cause really, the piece is very tonal...lots of big masses of a fairly constant value. what are you trying to learn from this? that should guide how approach this (and every) study, really.
Joe, dude you've been doing awesome work lately!!!
The pose's are killer, keep them up man they'll really help out! LOVE the Sargent study at the top to, he's my favorite portrait artist!
By the way, your line work is getting so nice and clean, big ups mate!
Keep at it bro, and thanks for the BS support
purb36 - thanks man. ya I do plan on rendering it out. I just wanted to do linework first to get all of the proportions and shapes down. Theres no point in rendering something thats incorrect in terms of proportion and structure. At least thats what seems to make sense to me.
JailHouseRock2 - thanks Matt. I hope im improving. I truly dont see it but Im just pushing through
BlackDelphin - thanks!
just laying some values down on the Frazetta copy. I noticed a huge issue with the angle of the man.. hes too straight up. I was going to erase him but its gonna make a mess so I decided to recognize it but leave it. Probably the wrong thing to do but I tend to be impatient. Trying to turn his color into a pencil drawing is tough. I think its helping me learn to read values though. More to come soon
when copying from a masterwork its a good idea to block off the entire picture.
it helps getting your proportions correct and you get to see how they designed with in the space.
I took the Frazetta piece and just put a simple grid over it by dividing the rectangle in half then divided the top left in half and so on to smaller measurements. That way its easy to at least get things in the ballpark.
oh and just desaturate the orig (if you are working from a digital copy ) and maybe print it out.... just for the value study.
i lined up the faces.
Thanks Zaz, that really shows me how much more time I need to spend on the initial measurements and proportions. I always wanna rush into the rendering. Thats something I need to apply to all of my work.. not just master copies. I need to worry more about construction than rendering right now.
As Zaz's grid shows.. my copy is a proportional mess. Fixing it would create a mess. So I decided to just study the values and recognize that I need to watch my measurements. I spent some time rendering tonight. I think Ill spend one more session on it and then leave it alone and start on something new.
just wanted to say that I will not have a scanner until january 25th.. so only digital stuff will get posted. I will be working my ass off until school starts again. Im gonna drill anatomy into my skull. Im hoping to get into a TEAM CHOW III group.. so lemmeknow if your interested!!!
suggestions on the learnig anatomy thing.
1.) get the proportions of the whole thing down pat, I suggest going with the 8 headed breakdown.
2.) Bones 1st, not as sexy as doing the muscles but start with em anyways.
3.) now add the muscles to the bones, on a different layer if digital or tracing paper if tradish. noting where everything connects, or just redraw the bones and add the muscles that way, its not about making a clean drawing now but learning information. you can make pretty studies later
repeat like a thousand times.
or whatever way works for you
thanks so much to the both of you. Im going to do all of those things. I think whats holding me back right now is just pure mileage. Im simply not drawing enough. I know what to do.. I just need to do it.. ALOT. I need to get in gear. Thanks for the support as always. Its very much appreciated!
Its so strange, Im currently in the process of learning Japanese. And as hard as it is.. it frustrates me less than my lack of improvement in art. With the Japanese.. I see my progress.. I know when I learn a new word or when I memorize a new character. Yet when I draw... I dont feel myself getting better... which in turn makes me feel like its never gonna happen. SO DAMN FRUSTRATING!
my first sketch for the fairy CHOW.. I kinda like it. Maybe Im trying to get the effect of floating downwards.. I dont quite have it yet. It looks more like shes sitting.
hahah theyre comingg... had to get my scanner back.. everythings been pencil for me lately
Ok first I need to apoligize to my CHOW group for my failure to produce for Team Chow 3. I had stuff going on with home and school life that consumed my month and needed to be taken care of. Id rather not get into detail but lets just say that its ok now and my heads screwed back on. I dont have much to show but Ive been studying a lot. Im just gonna show some random sketchbook pages and stuff some life some photos. Im going to get back into regular updating now with actual pieces and studies. Thanks for the patience everyone... and special thanks to Zaz for always pushing me. My desire to improve is still burning hotter than ever... but just like always I need to WORK HARDER.
hey peepss... Heres some sketchbook stuffs. Some posemaniacs.. obviously not posting them all because its boring. Some life sketches and imagination sketches. Ive been using alot if fine liners lately. I have been extremely inspired lately by people who show so much with so little. Ive been trying to use line and brushpen to show the female form. Focusing on line quality and thickness. Its tons of fun and is a lot less stressful for me than doing a full render. I still will do those, but I think switching it up is healthy for my progress. These drawings im posting are completely awful though, my confidence with line is almost non existent. Hopefully I can change this. Some artists that have inspired me to do this are Bumskee, Clochette, Marc Taro and Yoji Shinkawa. Shinkawa-San's lines are SICKKKKKKKKKKK. Im trying to find some life drawing sessions but so far Im out of luck.. More to come, hopefully some master copies and PS/oil paintings...
Oh yea.. the pen Im using is a .4 Pilot HiTEc C.. ordered them from Japan.. They are wonderful
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Hey guys... not much today. Just some Bridgman drawings, a cup from life, and copies from Janas lines... she really draws gorgeous lines, something I want to learn to do. Schools kicking my ass.. Im learning Java and its fun but the assignments are raping me.
Hey guys... I went away for the weekend to Philadelphia for valentines day. I went to the museum of art yesterday morning and it was awesome. My girlfriend laughs because everytime we go to a museum and I find a Sargent painting... I kinda turn into a little kid in a candy store. I just sit and stare forever...to me, seeing that mans paintings up close is one of the most inspiring things you can ever do. Especially when your a huge fan like I am. I didnt do much drawing sadly because it was time for love... and not love of art Im back though.. getting back to honing my drawing chopss! Some sketchbook stuff... just some Wes burt quick sketches and a photo cowgirl chica. the red lines are from imagination