I painted Darkdreamer back in 05 using Corel Painter 8 for a publisher and revisited it again as a large oil painting a few months ago. The original version went unpublished as the art director considered it too sexy when finished!? He had approved the sketch, but I guess he didn't foresee the realism, or life breathed into the work via dimension...
With both reduced to the same media for viewing ( pixels ), I'd be interested to hear if you prefer the digital version or the oil version?
Thanks for your comments in advance.
Last edited by patrick j jones; May 7th, 2009 at 02:02 AM.
awsome work. i like the second one and what you did with her hand.
anatomy of arm and over all piece on second one much better than the digital ver. but i like the eyes of the digital version. but over all your traditional version is very expressive.
much better than i could do, but i gotta say the digital one looks a little to soft, obviously the head is supposed to be the focal point, however i just think the rest of her body is a little to blurry. i do really like the eyes though.
the traditional one on the other hand is stunning, really liking the changes you made, the lighting on the fin/tail looks real nice.
Last edited by Benjie; May 8th, 2009 at 10:15 AM.
the traditional..but its not fair, the digital was done in 2005
oil version wins easy!!
Traditional wins. Everything has improved. Technique, palette, mood, anatomy and modeling. Well done!
The oils are amazing. I like how her skin blends into scales more on this. You can see it more on her chest than the digital one. But on the digital one Her face is so prominant, the colours of her make up really shine. Like before this has been mentioned that the digital was done 4 years ago compared to your oils only recently, so your improvement in the arts will be significant. This shows in how you have altered certain parts like her hand. The green background in the oils is beautiful. I like green and that's a very nice green for me. So..........I'm going with the oils. Traditional work is so pleasing to see.
Both are brilliant. You're are master of both mediums, but I have a real bias to the oil version. There is a noticeable depth to the oil version, that may be a result of 5 years of your continual improvement, but man, I can almost feel her sleek scaley arms and smell the seaweed! IMHO, the oil version has a tangeable humanity to it. It rocks and inspires. Please post more of your traditional work.
I prefer the oil version!
Just ceckd you blogspot and found out youre doing masterclasses?... here on the Gold Coast. Holey bejeesuz man please tell me when?!
I like the oil better personally but I like the eyes on the digital one better.
thanks for all the comments, much appreciated!
Cammor1: the next start for Masterclass will probably be around mid July. Contact Gold Coast TAFE Ashmore Campus for details. Look forward to seeing you there if you can make it.
Not even close in my opinion Patrick, the digital is a hamburger, while the traditional piece is fillet Mignon. Some may prefer a burger, but you can't argue which is the better cut of meat! Great idea and fun to compare.
Like your traditional stuff too!
The traditional by far, its stunning. I can't take my eyes off it...
....and now its my desktop background
My heart warms when I see brilliantly done oil paintings, you don't seem to come across them as often as I would like
edit this thread and make it into a poll!
saw your progress on the oil, and am way more impressed with that than the digital. With oil, you gotta really know what you are doing to get the mood and lighting correct and not rely on technology for help.
Hey Patrick! Interesting to see side by side. I totally go with the traditional on this for texture alone. The scales, walls, everything just feel so much more tangible to me. Not to mention that it also seems to have a more unified atmosphere, if that makes any sense...
I like the skin details in the second one but the stronger contrast between light and dark in the first.
The traditional piece is a better painting, but she's far sexier in the digital one. You emphasized her neck muscles and clavicle way too much.
They're both certainly impressive. I prefer the style of the top one, there's something just slightly offputting about the hand and ear in the lower one though that's just a matter of preference and nothing to do with skill or the medium used whatsoever. The lower has slightly better anatomy, presumbably a matter of the time difference. Overall the second one wins.
Hey Dave, good to hear from you! I was just writing about how terrific it was meeting Boris and Julie at IlluXCon in the other thread about Darkdreamer. It was also terrific meeting you and Anthony.
hi, both llook good, the first one has better eyes but i prefere the second ones' tail details. they look more fishy, maybe you canrework that part in the digital and go with that then?
Sketchbook (daily Oils):
I vote also for the traditional... improved on so many levels... and I greatly prefer the subtle textures to the smooth luminescence of the first. Both terrific works though!
I tend to think that doing a traditional oil or acrylic painting is a good way to start, then scan it and use programs like Photoshop/Painter to adjust things like color balance, hue and saturation, light/dark contrast and so forth. Digital simply gives advantages of being able to adjust the finished image in ways that traditional painting cannot, thus allowing a greater level of control over the final outcome to make the image as effective as possible. And I agree with P-WAF that she's sexier in the digital one, even though I like a lot of the details you can see in the traditional.
Is the Masterclass traditional or digital.
CCThrom: Always nice to hear good stuff, thanks.
Hi Katzenminze. I tend to not return to a piece once it's done, but maybe one day...
Dahami: I sometimes scan textures and spattered paint to get a more organic looking digital painting but apart from that I tend to keep traditional and digital artworks apart.
Cammor1, the Masterclass is a blend of drawing and digital, but no traditional painting. Programmes used are: 5% Illustrator, 35% Photoshop, and 60% Painter. All projects are Fantasy, Horror and SF based.
These are beautiful! I like the drama of the traditional one but favor the fx visible in the digital one. Both are very well done but I think I prefer the traditional one.
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