I got this from Todd Lockwood today. Thought you guys might find this interesting.
just received this from a friend. In this religion-saturated country, I can't see a
Secretary of the Arts ever happening or working, but I signed the petition.
And added as a comment: "And also please oppose the horrible Orphaned Works bill" ...
in case you haven't received this ... please consider signing.
You may already have received this, but it is so important, I'm passing it along.
Quincy Jones has started a petition to ask President-Elect Obama to appoint a Secretary
of the Arts. While many other countries have had Ministers of Art or Culture for
centuries, The United States has never created such a position. We in the arts need this
and the country needs the arts--now more than ever. Please take a moment to sign this
important petition and then pass it on to your friends and colleagues.
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I would love a Secretary of the Arts position, but I really wouldn't expect it here for a while.
Signed, good sir, signed.
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what would that job entail? Why do we need a Secretary of the Arts? Is it to keep American culture prevalent in our everyday lives? Wouldn't that create government control over some kind of creativity?
Just curious before I sign anything
Jason, I'm all for it... but the religion comment hurts.
edit: oh wait... I get it. Its a play on words with "minister," as in "minister" of the arts. Sorry for getting kinda uptight about it.
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Over 32k signatures so far.
I wonder how that count stacks against other national petitions...
...and how important signature number is for something like this.
...and how much sway these petitions have.
Oh well, it's good to feel like part of something I believe in at any rate
Last edited by Zirngibism; January 10th, 2009 at 01:31 AM.
So, this aside, do you have any theories as to why someone would think religions would be against a secretary for the arts? Perhaps the notion that artists as a group are too "liberal"? Maybe that there's a correlation between religious people and fiscal conservatives when it comes to government programs involving social issues like the arts?
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2nd) You forget that Islam was iconoclastic. They saved the other parts of the culture like science math and non-representational geometric patterns.
Plus the "hindering of intellectual growth" stuff is a bit blown out of proportion. That was more a result of the degredation and crash of the Western Roman Empire. Without a centralized infrastructure the place broke down and you got the dark ages. The fact that Christianity happened to emerge durring that time makes it more a victim of circumstance. Granted it did lots of other horrible stuff such as hindering other religions and for a while put clothing on all their statues, but they still kept the arts alive in their own way.
3rd) Lets keep it civil here Blue, I know that you are Buddhist and I would be pissed off to see people saying bad stuff about your religion... granted, since I kind of claim all religions I'd feel like it was an attack on mine as well... I'm not sure where I'm going with this.
Last edited by Peter Coene; January 10th, 2009 at 01:43 AM.
Peter is there ever a thread that you don't start shit?
Why is this turning into a discussion about fucking religion?
Sign the damn petition shut up and draw.
It amazes me that your country & it's inhabitants, which never had a Ministry of Arts, produced and is producing some of the best art known to man, in many facets (film, "art", illustration, photography, music, etc) . & countries with this kind of government "support" (like mine, which is more religion based than yours, as a fact), are simply forgotten in art history. I really think you guys don't need a Secretary of this type... just produce your goods... and inspire the rest of the world to be better
There's too many damn monkeys in your brain shooting RPGs at each other...
If I were an american I would sign it as well, seeing that we've had a Minister of Culture and arts here in Germany as long as I can think....
All it does is to have a representative JUST for culture and the arts, not like your represenatative who has 100.000 other things on his minds other then arts....
The more important question is, why wouldnt you want such a psoition in your country?
Because pew pewing is a bigger priority.
I do agree wholeheartedly, most other countries have that position and it's not a form of government control but rather a way to stimulate culture and art, providing funds, infrastructure and such.
One of the things I found in favor of it is this. This guy thinks the history of jazz is going to disappear if no secretary of the arts is elected. Maybe I just don't know what's going on but jazz disappearing doesn't seem like a real threat to me. It's a great idea to get more funding for arts education, but America already has the national endowment for the arts.
Peter, I'm not saying all religious people are this nutty, but if you want to understand why some people consider religion an enemy of the arts look at what the american family association did.
Oh yeah and, America also has the national endowment for the humanities. Both of these organizations are federally funded and their directors are appointed by the president. I guess a secretary of culture would bring these two groups together or something?Originally Posted by wikipedia
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