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Hey. Recently I tried myself at doing gun concepts just for fun. I still completely suck at design and I made several mistakes that would be hard to undo but I also learned few small things. First one turned out a bit generic so in the second tried something more unusual
First person views were modelled in Sketchup and I painted on top to loose the rough look.
Have you ever wanted to shoot with fingers? Now you can with the new semi-automatic finger gun (by StupidDesign TM).
The idea sounded pretty good at the beginning but when I tried actually sketching that, there were many problems with making it look like it works and compact at the same time. So basicly I removed every single part that didn't contribute. Otherwise it would have to shoot 1 mm bulets . I left special space for the mechanism. It isn't completely solved as well as how this plastic clip with unique cartridge position work. I guess it wouldn't but for sci-fi mumbo jumbo it's enough for me.
I improved the workflow especially in 3d stage.
Here it is.
EDIT: - I corrected few spelling mistakes and removed hammer. It didn't want that.
I liked the suble_squid's idea of finger gun version with ammo belt so I made something like this. The single forearm pack can have about 70 bullets inside so it's two clips of regular submachine gun. Of course you can put two such pack and have 140 bullets but that would be pretty uncomfortable to use. The led screen shows the amount of ammo left.
Here's submachine concept I made lately. It's gun mounted on forearm with small sensor at the front, 3D LCD screen at the back (for easier aiming in some situations), and round clip like in tommy gun. For perspective view I used Sketchup as usual.
Last edited by Farvus; March 4th, 2009 at 08:41 PM.
your design is good here...nice job!
I like the top gun very much, but then I'm a sucker for anything bullpup. A few notes. the handle looks a bit thin and its back contour has a few ridges on it that would be uncomfortable. The trigger is too close to the handle. Triggers are squeezed with the tip of the finger so they need to sit forward a bit to work ergonomically. A p90 has a very similar configuration, and excellent ergonomics, so you might want to look at it for a more natural trigger position. The butt end of the stock should be smooth and curve slightly for the sake of comfort. This one would cut a bunch of horizontal bruises in to your shoulder. The sights should sit much farther forward. If that stock is set in your shoulder the back sight is going to be at your ear. You should be looking at something more like pistol sights or possibly a nice little red dot. You don't give us a front view but if you do a front view I'd advise a floating barrel inside that shroud. it is a much more modern design than to have your front grip attaching directly to the front of the barrel. A small flash hider would also increase the utility of the gun and improve the silhouette.
The bottom gun seems like it would be pretty clunky to wield. I'm guessing it isn't supposed to be a projectile weapon. Is it a chemical laser or a flame thrower maybe? Again I would move those optics forward just a little. Give it a more ergonomic pistol grip and trigger. If it is a projectile weapon I'd give it some shock absorption in the stock. If it shoots something with little or no recoil I'd give it much lighter, possibly folding stock. I'd rethink that front grip too. It looks terribly uncomfortable to use.
These concepts are pretty good! The bottom one definitely looks like something other than a projectile weapon, and the 1st person view could use some more reflectivity on the eyepiece, but overall I would say that you've done a decent job. Have you downloaded Coro's weapon design tutorial? While you seem to have a good process, there's some info in that tutorial you might find useful.
Very nice, and have to give lots of credit for the first person view. Even conventional guns, when done right can be fantastically designed, and the top one gets pretty close. And good job with sketchup. That program hates me and the feeling is reciprocal. I don't think there are enough weapon concepts on this forum, and I am always glad to see more.
I agree, more weapon designs people! Weapons and other tools are always fun since their form must be quite subservient to their function. So if you want one with a drastically unique form you need a drastically unique function for it to perform. The Halo shard gun and the chainsaw gun from gears of war come to mind as good examples of this principle. I wonder if we could set up a weapon of the week or tool of the week contest.
Cheers dude! I dig your designs (it's not right that they suck) adding some camouflage would be a great idea though! I'm keen on hand arms... but these are very amazing! I agree with the handle on the second one it's a little bit thin and looking uncomfortable to handle! Here are few photos you should look! Take a deep look on these...
Last edited by clanlord; October 9th, 2008 at 02:07 PM.
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this is great! if you had posted more i would have given u 5 str
Hey! New update in first post.
alicat08 - Thanks, man.
subtle_squid - Wow. Thanks for really good advice. You pointed out many things I didn't think about. Especially that end of the stock was bad decistion. I gave it too sharp corners. Still lots of stuff to learn.
Second gun is actually..... Sniper flame-thrower rifle. (I figured that out later ). You can put long range targets on fire LOL. I guess it's pretty heavy but flames don't give recoil.
nickzorn - Thanks. I didn't download Coro's tutorial. Just saw preview on youtube and it looks pretty good. I'll propably buy it later.
Duman - Thanks. Yeah. Not much guns maybe beacause it's hard subject and can be boring for people.
subtle_squid - Yeah. I don't study industrial design but prop/weapon design is very good test of designing skills. It makes my brain explode .
vibhas_virwani - Thnx.
clanlord - Really cool guns. These handles look pretty comfortable. Thanks.
paulturalski - Hehe. Thanks anyway.
i am sooo diggin these guns design
lol the one on the finger some how reminds me of the word finger bang from South Park lol FINGER BANG!!! xD
I like that finger gun concept alot. It almost looks workable. I think it probably needs a litte more room for some sort of tiny rotary action in the palm. It can't have a pistol slide because that would break the shooters thumb. Stacking the bullets perpendicular to the barrel will provide for a much larger magazine but to twist the bullets around like that will need a special shape to the magazine. Here is a p90 magazine.
It sits inline with the barrel along the top of the gun. The round bit turns the bullets ninety degrees before it drops them in to the action. Like putting batteries in a remote control. Since your barrel doesn't run down the center of the magazine you won't be able to take this shape exactly but think about the paths the bullets take in to the action and allow for it in your design.
The p90 magazine is also unique in how it attaches to the gun. It snaps in at the square end then slaps down on to the action. You may want to consider the ergonomics of changing out the magazine quickly while under fire . Maybe a small device at the shooter's hip. A sort of holster/speedloader could be cool.
A cool variant of this might be a belt fed machine-pistol. I just like the mental image of belts of ammo feeding up in to a guys palm while he spits bullets from his fingertips.
The finger gun sounds like a very cool assassin weapon. Do you know what Booth killed Lincoln with? Exactly. This could work, hypothetically, and if you loaded it out with some special ammunition, say poison, it could really pack a punch. What kind of recoil would we get from this thing?
Hey. I posted something new in first post. Finger Gun Belt Feed System .
Oni Rem - Thanks. I'll try to do more but maybe after some break. Too much of this stuff.
Kian - Thanks, man.
subtle_squid - I didn't plan pistol slide for this thing. I left some space for spring mechanism, later forgot about it and placed hammer which wasn't necessary. It's actually hammerless firearm (I was reading some stuff on wikipedia about this stuff but it's pretty complicated and I don't know english that well).
As for magazine. I tried to put it on top like in P90 (I really like it by the way) or on the bottom but it left too much space. I wanted to hide most of the gun behind fingers. That's why I placed bullets on the side under particular angle to make them stand out less and be in the good position before they get loaded into the barrel.
Belt fed machine pistol concept sounded cool so I made this one. The gun was capable of being fully automatic but ther was no point of doing that with only 8 bullets .
Duman - I don't see this gun as assasin weapon beacause you couldn't conceal it well. Also if I were assassin I would use much bigger caliber to make sure the target is killed. This thing could shoot realy small bullets for pocket self defense pistols (maybe .380 ACP?) so not very strong. To be honest I don't know what recoil would that give. Maybe small. I wound have to build a prototype to know . This finger gun would be propably useful with close combat where you move a lot and don't have much time for aiming. Sounds like action movie, hehe.
That finger gun looks awesome, but may not be very adapted for dish washing or nose scratching.
I see a problem with the ammo belt thingy; If the ammo is attached to the gun vertically, how will it shoot out the bullets? Some sort of mechanism that turns the bullet horizontal and how fast? and if it was to fire like a machine gun it would probably be slow at shooting then.
Just what i thought when i saw that part.
The finger gun looks pretty awsome, but I fail to see the field applications of such a device.
I figured it would be more effective for it to be a gun attached the hand with a barrel that extends out between the Pointer and Index knuckle. Bullets would be fed into a firing chamber, via a clip extending across and below the knuckle line. Theraml sheilding for the fingers and hand would be required, to prevent the burning of the skin. This in my mind would allow the freedom to fire a primary assult rifle, a secondary pistol, and finally the finger gun once both of which was exausted as a last resort.
Did u use the El Coro Weapon design 4 that???
Cos if u did i was wunderin if its worth buyin it.
i particulaly like the finger guns.
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'Player two has entered the game.'
Haven't you got work?
'Player two has left the game.'
Hey. I updated first post with new weapon. Forearm mounted submachine gun.
sony - Thanks!
spookybabydoll - Well. For nose scratching it's very good.
Oni Rem - Man. You set the bar too high. I tried to make it as realistic as possible but I'm not building a real life model or something. There is for sure some sort of mechanism that rotates bullets like in P90 (see subtle_squid's post) but it's still all fictional prototype weapon of future. Maybe that mechanism would jam a lot or allow for only low fire rate. Who knows. I leave it for your imagination .
Rovert Scott - I see field application of such device. Computer game. An you don't need any primary assault rifle or secondary pistol. Just finger gun and new generation of high explosive bullets .
Magebolrim - No. I didn't use el coro's weapon design tutorial.