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I'm an 18 year old college student. I much believe in the traditional aspects of art and to build upon the accumulated knowledge from the past, and I dislike modern art and almost everything about it.
I applied to Falmouth university to do their fine art course so I could focus on painting. It's the most "traditional" I could find but just like every other university, they support and teach modernistic views.
I've been reading about ateliers, and there a 2 here in England and they offer everything I am looking for. So now i'm thinking, should I study at an atelier? I have an interview at Falmouth on the 11th but now i'm having serious doubts if it's going to be worth it, even if the university is highly reccomended. Because all I want to do is become a painter (or even sculpture), and i'm unsure if a university is the right choise for that in this post-modern art world.
I was wondering if anybody here could help me find an answer... university or atelier? I know an atelier will help equip me with the skills I want to persue my desire to become a painter, but a university will provide me with a degree and more likely chance of getting a job.
Last edited by B u r l; April 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 AM.
If you don't respect the artwork of your potential teachers, you probably won't have confidence in what they will have to teach you.
If you really, really know you want to be an artist, I think a good atelier (they are not all created equal) will help you a lot better with technical instruction than a university can. However, it would then be your own responsibility to learn art history and business. It should also be in your own interest to learn history, literature, music, science, languages, how to improve your reading, writing and speaking skills, and whatever else you may consider important to your education as a person, which is not mutually exclusive from learning to be an artist at your age.
heyhey, I am in fact in your precise position, so much so that i have an interview on the 10th!! I have unlimited respect and love for the more traditional side of art and like you i found falmouth to have a reputation for leaning more that way than most. I went to the open day, had my tour and panicked at the overwhelming volume of ...im going to say mess that was being produced in the way of modern art BUT i managed to comfort myself with the year 3s arty offering of much more pictorial and slightly more traditional style. from this i have concluded...kind of...that despite being forced to conform with the 'london view' on what makes good art, Falmouth still cling on to a traditional feel for art (and use their teaching methods accordingly), and that in fact it is the students imput alone that encourages the evolution of modern art. i think there's hope! lol
what a load of waffle, hope u found my point in there somewhere...
Which arteliers are you looking at? Depending on what they offer in the way of teaching, as long as you come out at the other end with good skills/portfolio then I think you are just as likely to find work as if you had a degree. I don't think having a degree really counts for much within the creative industry. Potential employers are far more interested in your portfolio/abilities as far as I understand.
However. For me a consideration in this would be money and funding. I don't know if you can get a student loan to go to an artelier or what the difference in fees is, but I for one could never have afforded to spend 3 years working on a full time art course if it wasn't for my student loan. So that may be a factor.
darkwolfb87: Thanks man.
Miilii_Mahou: Nice to know! I've sent you a pm.
Atastrophea: Cheers. I was looking into Lavender Hill Studios. It seems pretty good but reasearching into it more, If I was going to go to an atelier i'd much prefer it to be the Florence Academy of Art, or the Angel Academy... it's just the distance, you know (not to mention the £££ required).
Interesting that you say portfolios / own ability is the most important thing. That is something i've always believed in, but I hear from my current college teachers that degrees are what you need, because eventually you'll "hit a brick wall". The more I look into it, the more confused I become, but ah well.
I've studied at LHS for a few years and would highly recommend it as a supliment to your degree. I'm in a similar situation as are many other concept artists/students at LHS. Your degree will give you a huge amount of insight into the industry, helpful connections and yes the b.s. of having a degree counts sometimes.
LHS does a short courses outside of term time and many of the students here have already completed degrees. The atelier world is very small so many of my piers have studied in Florence as well, but prefer LHS.