I understand. Check your PMs Cody
cody im SO SO angry at you. I just... i wouldn't normally post this... i just had to get it off my chest. I hate bottling things up. I think what you are doing here is really unprofessional and unfair.. you are treating us all like dirt man! Where do you get off, on giving us an extension. Its rediculous. Just because you work a hoity toity job and you married a hooker doesnt give you the right to tread all over the little guy. I hope I have appealed to some part of you deep down that knows this is true. I hope you reconsider your life and make some serious changes. Because you have a lot of potential to be a good person, but its a lifetime commitment and you have to be serious about it. I for one hope that you can do that.
Best wishes, let me know if you ever need a hug. We all have to cry some time!
*edit* on a more serious note -- to the amateurs and middleweights competing: it is my experience that due to the internet and the modern art community, many of us do a lot of reading and thinking online. This leads to a whole lot of theoretical knowledge, of rules, colour theories, analysing art and all that sort of stuff. But we lack the tactile experience of an Atelier where you put your knowledge to practise every day. If you think you have finished your piece, i would suggest taking a part of that knowledge bank you think you know about it, and really push that part of your piece. Colour temperature is a good one. You could spend 3 weeks on a painting just looking at similar objects in life and seeing how subtle the temperature shifts can be. Refine the values. Flip it and see how the shape design is working. Does your storytelling convey your message instantly or is it slightly confusing? The masters spent years on their paintings - dont tell me you cant find something to improve for another week :p
You know Form... all this is very nice and you are very persuasive but the fact remains.. deadlines should mean something...
Saying all this, I repeat as I wrote already in another place... this TD is Cody's idea and he can do pretty much anything with rules and deadlines... but of course there are some considerations that everything should be taking in moderation and with sense. Your ideas about little people I don't like at all. I don't look at art like this. I expect to see beauty in every new image doesn't matter from who it will come.
Last edited by sve; January 10th, 2008 at 04:59 AM.
Cheers Cody! Gives me some time to work on my final year project nice one Oh and I am pretty sure this sort of thing sometimes happens in the games industry, as in you will get a week extra or so to work on something...although maybe not as much as this hehe, anyway nice one!
Ive got a question, say if I make it to round 2, and I have to send my computer In for repairs after the round 1 deadline, and the repairs usually take 2-3 weeks, will I be able to get my computer back in time for when round 2 starts?
basically, around what time does round 2 start?
And Im pretty sure Ill make it to round 2 because, you know, Im pretty awesome.
For all I care, Cody can do what ever the hell he pleases.
People should be thankfull imo for the organisation and him setting up all this.
"There is no such thing as 'accurate drawing'. There is beautiful
drawing, and ugly, and nothing else." JAD Ingres, Ecrits sur l'art
oh cody I think I loooooove youuuuuu!
Thank you for the extension ! I think everyone needed it! So thank you!
And uhh..I can't possibly imagine why anyone would want to bitch about the extension... I mean this is something we all do out of our free time, and for those who work, the extra time is something to look forward to...a nice change from our deadlines intensive lives. Don't be sorry! we're all really thankful... at least i'm sure mostly everyone from the workshop is!
;p an extra week is nothing, it might even give extra time to reaaally polish those paintings! Come on now everyone, let's not be lazy!!!
I guess if the majority wills it to happen then it should. I just thought it was important to point out that moving deadlines about at will can hinder people as well as help them and isn't always a good idea, especially when the dealine is imminent
+ in my case as soon as I hear the word extension I suddenly relax and an overwhelming sense of sloth comes over me
much respect for Cody doing the whole thing off his own back though, of course we all appreciate the effort
Well, I have a few things to say about the deadline extension and puss-outs in general:
1. (To the Participants, not our Host We've had a long time to get this done. These entries had better be pretty damn awesome - how long does it take you guys to come up with and execute a concept? Professionals in the industry shouldn't have a problem blowing the doors off this contest, and noobs - if you can't succeed with all these deadline extensions, how do you expect to make it in the real world as a concept artist?
2. Yes, there is no official prize for this contest, but everyone who signed up pretty much made an obligation to produce a work of art in a certain time frame. Sure, you can make arguments for how other things are more important, or other things came up, or your computer crashed (how many people out there are working on junk computers? I swear, if I had a share of Microsoft for every "my computer crashed and I lost my entry" excuse I've heard, I'd own Bill Gates - and I'd be rich, because you'd have to buy another computer if all those excuses were indeed true). Still, if you puss out, what does that say about you? Unless it involves death or dismemberment or your house burning down, unexpected divorce, or a handful of other extreme circumstances, failing to meet the deadline or pussing out reflects extremely poorly on your accountability and professionalism. This contest may mean little to you, but to some of us it is taken seriously as a place to push ourselves, outside of work, to create something our souls need to bring to life to prevent withering in our banal society, and to many of the people on the reserve list, who lost out because a lazy, slacker puss-out took their spot, you have done a great disservice to the Concept Art community and yourself. If you pussed out due to laziness or unprofessionalism, and you don't feel extremely bad about it to the point where you are motivated to change the slothlike aspects of your wasted existence, then try not to waste our time in the future and stay the heck away from the challenge forums. Most puss out excuses are probably absolute BS anyway - you were just afraid to compete and realized you got in over your head, and turned tail and ran. Well, keep running. (Unfortunately, internet is pretty much worldwide, so no matter where your chicken legs carried you, you'd find a way to come back here again...damn it...)
3. That being said, there IS a prize for this contest. There are many potential career-making prizes. ImagineFX is covering this contest, MAJOR people in the CA industry are paying attention, including Senior Art Directors from some of your favorite companies, and who knows who else? And you know what, since these forums are public, they can see which people are making a bunch of lame-ass excuses for why they can't make this very generous deadline extension, and they'll know not to approach you for work.
4. I've had my share of problems as well, but none of them have stopped me from competing. A stinking dog at a friend's house chewed through and completely severed my Wacom cord, and I had to surgically splice it back together (if any of you have ever seen how tiny those wires are, you know how difficult that is) and work with a damaged Wacom held together by a wad of electrical tape. Then, I realize I'm out of nibs and the one I'm using is so short it's almost INSIDE the pen and Wacom is taking FOREVER to ship me replacements. Plus, I moved, most of my stuff is still in boxes, but I've got my computer set up rather haphazardly in my very unpacked work area, working in a very non-ergonomic way amongst piles of boxes in a freezing cold basement with poor lighting and a goddamn broken window that I haven't had time to fix because I work 12 hours a day (with commute) and have a daughter that needs looking after until she goes to bed, leaving me maybe 3 hours a night to try to get anything done (including paying bills, eating and showering)- which usually turns into 5 hours because I end up saying f@#k sleep, which sucks when I have to get up for another soul-sucking day at Merrill Lynch on 4 hours of sleep if I'm lucky. But my entry is done, despite it all, and as you'll all see, it is VERY expansive, incredibly detailed, and not something that was just crapped out in a few hours at a computer between video games, bong hits, and internet porn all-nighters. Where there's a will, there's a way, as they say.
So revel in the deadline extension. But damn it, make something of it, get some incredibly awesome piece of artwork done, and don't puss out because you're a lowsy, lazy, slacker waste of time who never should have signed up for this contest. The only way this contest is going to reach its potential is if people take it seriously, and if all that's turned in is crap and excuses, the best artists here at CA are going to stop taking it seriously, and it will be a joke of a contest populated by riff-raff.
P.S. I 10000000% support strych9ine's banning of any puss-outs from future competitions (not counting, of course, legitimate death-related reasons, but still, you guys had forever to get your entries done, and waiting until the last minute and being blindsided by something is, in itself, unprofessional as well, technically). You wasted our time once, and forced worthy participants to take a spot on the reserve list, why would we want to let you do it to us a second time?
I'm just saying...
I don't think he was being serious Mr.Visions
Every time I check here, there's an extension, maybe I shouldn't check the LMS threads anymore.
lol! everyone!!! i was joking!!! cody said people getting angry would put a smile on his face, and i like to make my main man c-banger smile!!! sve, visions, etc, i love you guys - hope you know i was just joking around
sve - i dont know what you mean about 'my ideas about the little people' - was that taken from the joke part or the second part? Because i completely agree with your assertion and i shirk fundementalism in all its forms... i am no elitist... hopefully you can clarify by PM perhaps? I dont want this thread being hijacked any more than it is
as for the second part of my post, i do think there are plenty of ways to keep working on a piece and refining it. And as for deadlines and time and so on, its a fairly regular thing when you are working as an artist to have timings moved around. Sure its a hassle and whatever but its always going to happen so I find just going with the flowing and using obstacles as opportunities are the best way.
Anyhow, hopefully my chagrin wit has now been exposed in all its blundering tomfoolery - i didnt mean to cause a stir... this was a fun thread to wake up to... i havnt even had my coffee yet! *pushes groan button at his own life*
Jesus, I can't believe people are whining. If you guys had any idea how much work Cody has put into this you would cry from shame. Cody you beautiful bastard, I think you should have charged an entry fee dude I really do. Much love and respect dude, hope to see you again soon.
hell yeah! thnx a lot cody. workshop attendees are grateful, so as everyone else should be too.
now, hammer time..
Why to PM when I can say it here . I was wrong I apologize ... I thought you were weighing art and artists like kilos of potatoes... IMO Art can't be measured strictly speaking... Finished painting doesn't mean it is a good art. Everything is as indefinite as it can be. Connection with art should come individually, shouldn't be influenced by names and a brilliant past of the artist or other person charisma.
I'm sorry I misunderstood you. I should count till 100 not till ten when write something. .
Love right back at you.
right, enough kindness!
To all who try to oppose me:
Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries!
Cody, you beautiful, beautiful man. Thanks for the erection... er, I mean extension. Great meeting you, it was about fucking time.
hahaha....tom and rob love cody! carla too. how do i get myself into this love shack.
and for all the whiners..... jog on!
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "i" in meat pie. Meat is the anagram of team...~Shaun "Shaun of the Dead"
Got your back Cody. We'll keep the hordes at bay.
OMG! Now I can get more than 2 hours of sleep tonight! (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)