Hey, I was wondering if any of you are so called nocturnal people. I'm not sure if that's an official term but I sure do recognize myself in it, which is pretty frustrating actually. At the moment I'm working a temporary job, mostly in the morning, to study drawing and painting the rest of the day. The thing is, I'm not worth shit during most of the day. I'm all sleepy, often having a headache or even feeling depressed, unable to concentrate and I could just go to bed and fall asleep (same at work).
I feel like this till it's about 10 in the evening; then I suddenly wake up, become all active and feel like I could conquer the world. Often I start to clean my room and start working on my drawing skills or whatever needs to be done. This is really frustrating cause since I'll have to get up early for work in the morning, so I can't stay up for too long. Also, I just can't fall asleep for hours if I go to bed early. I think I'll just try to find a job I can work during afternoon/evening cause I really need to be more productive.
I was wondering if any of you feel like this too, it seems pretty interesting. Here's an article about it, which explains exactly what I mean.
Last edited by Coen; October 11th, 2007 at 05:40 PM.
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Im like you. I have sleeping problems since I was kid. No matter what measures I take to cure it, it get worse later. Our society have a thought that sleeping is for the weak when in fact it the opposite and it not all people who can work from 8am to 5am, not including the overtime. Sleeping during work is badly perceived and unfortunately in this continent it can result of being fired in the end.
Some people can handle this, some don't. I can't be productive if I don't sleep enough hours or wakeup with the sour feeling I didn't sleep enough. Creative minds don't work under fatigue, no matter how much caffeine you drink. I can be fortunate that I landed on a rare job that require me to enter in at 10am withtout punching a card. It better than nothing I guess, even if I wake at 9am.
But then there is always a time I feel like I need a nap, it in the afternoon.
There's only a solution to this (most certainly in America), go freelance.
I can go whenever and however long I need to and afterwards can adjust my sleep clock accordingly. I am better/more productive at night though and the day time just gets me all depressed b/c I don't have work and all my housemates are off to class or work themselves. So the night time is definitely where I belong.
i don't know i'm kind a bordering on that, i'm one of those that tend to sleep half the day, then go to class, work a little, then do whatever art stuff i feel like doing in the evening and homework.
i geuss it's because of my schedule and habits.
I get those times when I can't fall asleep for hours at a time, sometimes spending an entire night but I usually prefer to try and fall asleep in an hour then to stay awake for half the night. The only way I can really sleep normally is by self medicating, a damn shame. Can't do much besides that and just trying to get as comfortable as possible.
Wow that article sums up my life, I am just giveing up on another attempt at correcting my nocternal ways(attempt number 87).. I always find my problem solving abilities take a 50% hit when funtioning during daytime hours. and I have tried sleeping pills, worst thing ever...when you wana creat something you just feel to fuzzy headed or lathargic to even begin,
I have no idea when my clock switched to this time table but I love being up to witness both dawn and dusk and just my energy and creative levels are at a peak about one hour before sleep so its alot like burning out and wakeing refresed..
1)traffic rules at 3:00 am!
2)no lines at 7.11 tim hortons or any othe establishment!
3)no one breaks into my car/garage/house becuse im always awake at peek thieven hours!
4)no unwanted pop ins by relatives and lesser aquaintances.
5)never have to help anyone move
6)internet seems to run faster.
7)no chance for skin cancer!
8.)some of the most intersting people are out at night i kid you not.
9)I have less wrinkles around my eyes from squinting compared to my day time friends of equivelant age
10) Women are more into sex in the morning when they get up, do to the highest levels of testosterone at that time..I prefer to sleep after sex...perfect timeing..
aw hell I could go on listing until the sun comes up.
I'm the same way, but I also feel like (for some, not all) that those who have a habit of procrastination or working under tight deadlines probably have accustomed their body to being under these conditions. Hence, "the all nighter": I feel I might fall in this boat, even if I work diligently, old habits die hard and my body says, "hey, you can do better on this if you work on it at night when your used to working." I hope to prove that voice wrong, very soon, for sanity's sake. Just some food for thought.
I find it funny I'm the only one in this thread awake/online right now. It's not that funny though -
I wish I could get by with small amounts of sleep like some people, but getting up in the morning is a nightmare unless I had 7+ hours of sleep.
I don't know why, but I really do kind of enjoy my little 3am trips to the CVS and Dunkin Donuts around the corner. The employees on the graveyard shift are certainly more entertaining.
Been getting to bed earlier lately though, which feels pretty good.
I'm nocturnal, i just feel altogether more comfortable at night. Though with my current schedual its not particularly good, as i go to bed around 10pm and get up between 7-8pm. But I would happily stay up till 11 or 12 and back in the day when i didn't have to get up would happily spend all night doing something then sleep all day. I miss that.
Well, I mostly go to bed around 2 am full of energy, then I have to get up at 6.45 am so I always try to fall asleep as soon as possible. Nice to see some similar stories here. But hey, CA is more active at night since I live in the Netherlands!
Traffic at 3 am is nice indeed, it's just that I have nowhere to go at that time (stores are closed, no work etc). Can't wait to show this line from the article to certain people: "The biggest misconception about nocturnals is that they are lazy." Sounds like a good sig
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How very true, i've always been nocturnal i've always known it.. but i figured it was another part of being a weirdo since noone else i knew thought it was normal. I'm alway more creative and alive at night.
I did feel much better and less tired when i worked the nightshift then working two shifts during the day, did the shifts for 2.5 years (just quit) and i could never adjust even if i had slept enough i felt uncomfortable and could never concentrate.
Thanks for the article i've bookmakred it!!
I'm one of those also. If I go to sleep before 12 at night I can sleep three hours tops. I wake up all full of energy, no matter how little I've slept the night before. And if I'm lucky, I can sleep another three after that, and if I'm lucky, another...
If I go to sleep at two I might fall asleep, I might not. If I do, I can sleep forever.
If I go to sleep around 7am, I usually don't have any problem sleeping. Again, I can sleep a lot. If I don't go to sleep during the day after not sleeping a whole night, I'm most probably not gonna sleep the next night either without a miracle... The most I've been awake before going to the doctor's office and demanding sleeping pills was three days...
It's kindof weird but I've been living like this for almost 20 years, so I've learned to accept that's just the way I work. It's hard and frustrating when you have an 8 to 5 job though...
This might be what I'm having, the symptoms don't all fit on me, but maybe on some of you?
Wow, I tend to kid around with people and in jest call myself a "nocturnal" person.
Truth be told, The sun sets, and my perception of the world, opens up. Life always seems to me to be somehow dissconnected, I'm sleepy, tierd. Like only half of me is really following on with whats going on around me.
At night, all of that changes, all systems on, and nothing is going to stop me, NOTHING! Its like...slideing into a new perspective, a very refresing one that opens your eyes for you.
I can easily work all night long, no caffine (I decited to compleatley cut-off my caffine intake about a year ago) no energy drinks, nothing, just putting myself infront of something is good enoughf for me.
One summer I spent a total of 720 hours awake after 10:00 pm, staying up untill 5-6am. (Maybe I should re-check my math, but im pretty sure its accurate)
It does however, absolutley, absoluteley annoy me, because everyounce and a while I'll stay up to late, and I have to forse myself to go to ingore my new found mental freedom, and sleep. (Leading to nights were I don't even know if I ever actually slept. Its like I was thinking, and If at any point I was dreaming, I was dreaming that I was thinking, strange stuff)
So yea, it definitley applies here. thanks for shareing coen!
Wow... they have a name for it.
kind feels validateing
I use coffee to get through the day, then when night hits I can go all night no need for anything, and if I try to sleep a normal I get cronic nightmares!. My theory is the brain doesnt shut down even thought the body shuts down so its like all hell going on up there... I remeber some of the most vivid and scary visual nightmares for 7 days in a row,(during my forced normal sleeping schedual) and as soon as i go back to liveing nights...its lights out at 6-7 am and im wide awake and full of energy at 2-3 in the afternoon!
Me? Nocturnal? Nah.
Hmmm....but strangely as it nears 2AM, I'm still awake.....
Hmmm... that article seems to describe me perfectly. Glad I'm not alone!
Now all I have to do is convince my employers....
btw... i loved this patronising sentence from the article:
"The next time you meet a nocturnal, remember he is just like everyone else except he lives at night."
Up at 1-2p, down around 5am. All night diners and coffee shops do have the most interesting people.
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My clock is so off.. I get 4 hour if I'm lucky... sleep happens if I have nothing keeping my mind going.. I have to shut down everything and sit in the dark to get to sleep Or go with out till I drop(hopefully when I am not driving)
I cat nap too much and getting to bed isn't the top thing that happens after all gets quiet here before I can sleep.
I drove our room mate to the post office and i don't remember doing it ... that is bad ... she said I was very funny and drove well but seem a bit out of it.. i went home went to sleep again.. I get worried when this stuff happens.
its affecting my art and my health . good article could help me figure out better sleep patterns.