Hey everyone. I read that you should use the sketch thread as a sketch dump, so that people could see all your work to get a better idea of your faults...
Last edited by Whyatt Thrash; March 5th, 2011 at 07:57 AM.
More old stuff... I used to doodle a lot, as you can tell. I used to draw on anything I could get my hands on. Still do, but I try to keep a sketchpad around so I can save the stuff...
And I had a scanner back then
That last piece is good! Shows emotion, which is very important. The two guys kissing is a bit too gay for me, but artwise it's one of your best here.
Practise some more anatomy, and learn to construct. (Drawing head and hands by Loomis is a great book, go get it) Build a library!
Might want to try sketching these.
not bad stuff.
I like some of your invented facial anatomy.
Thanks for the crits guys. Yes, that kissing pic is seriously gay, there's a story behind that specific piece. A bit of the downer that that's my strongest work... Just goes to prove further that the time you spend on a piece is in no way indicative to the end quality or value of your work.
Thanks for the link, it killed me at the default setting (30 seconds) at 45 I got a bit more comfortable with it. I'll try it again when I'm a bit more awake, it feels like really good training.
i really like the one with the two dudes kissing. its very strong. and i like characters. nice style man.
Hah.. colorblind aswell. The irony of hanging around this site and not being able to see color properly. >_>
Diverse stuff, some of the portrait drawings look pretty good, and I like the first digitals too. Not sure how long they took you, they seem like speedpaints but pretty accurate.
Many scribbles, but some look really good. Don't know how much of this is 'old' or if you update often though. Just keep practicing and posting, hope to see your stuff pop up in the crit section or activities.
Yeah, I remember when our job counciler at school asked me what I wanted to do for a living, telling me there were certain jobs I could never take. Like military and pilot or stuff like that. I never figured it'd be an impediment to my carreer when I started working as a graphic designer until one time when a customer asked me about a "weird colour" on an illustration. Hah!
I've got a few systems now that help me prevent embarassing moments like those, but still, yeah. It's certainly a handicap. But, hey, if this guy can do it, why can't I?
PS. I'm gonna have some new stuff up soon hopefully. I'll get back to work tomorrow and that's where the scanner is, so here's to hoping.
As promised... SKETCH DUMP! From magazines, internet, life, and a few originals...
Since I've drawn some from magazines, you might be able to spot a celeb or two in there... And if not I did a crap job. XD
Hey Whyatt, decided to come here after seeing your comment in the critique center, welcome to CA, you've got a great start to a SB here. The one with the two guys kissing definitely jumps out the most. I think your pencil sketches are much better than your digitals though. I particularly like the one with the two girls - very well done. Keep it up.
Some anatomy exercises. On the ones that have bones, muscles and skin I tried to imagine the "skin" ones using the bones and muscles as reference. I did cheat a tiny bit in places where the exterior appearence is affected by more than bones and muscle (like around the knee), but I think I did ok. Please crit the "skin" pieces if there's something impossible going on in there. I have my doubts about the thigh being able to display that much muscle...
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Aiel doodles. First time I did something w/o reference in a loooong time, so it wook me a while to get warmed up... The first far dareis mai was the initial character sketch, and the notes around her were made after I had done all the doodles and actually researched what the books say about the cadin'sor attire... I got very little wrong, it seems... The one with the two aiel and the trolloc was actually just meant as a character study of her, but turned into something else.
Yes, I have problems with drawing characters in perspective... *sigh*
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Haha! Man! Nothing boring on this SB! I really enjoy all the dynamism in your work, outrageous poses, outrageous colors, great value, Pencils feel the strongest to me. Anatomy is your weakest point(as is for us all) But, seriously, their is some great stuff in here. I prefer the pencil renders over all.
N1va & trip: Well, I love the pencils, I guess you can tell.... I've never really felt passionate about digitals, or colouring at all.
I used to think that painting and colours didn't agree with me, and then I really tried it for a while and noticed I actually could get decent results.. But like I said, it's never been a favourite of mine, it just felt like the next natural step, and people kept bugging me that I should do digitals...
I've realized exactly how much I don't know and how much I need to study so, as you can tell, I concentrate heavily on studying... Right now, anatomy and posing and life. Then maybe perspective. Then maybe when I can do decent sketches without copping out and faking it, I can take up colouring again. In like a year or two...
Thanks for all your comments! I appreciate all the help I can get!
Hi Whyatt! excellent stuff stuff you've got here, and so much improvement just over these last few posts. One crit though, alot of the poses you've got the girls in are ridiculously over-feminized, I mean it's good to have some gender differentiation but why is that chick with the spears shoving her boobs out like that? I just tried this and it's a very uncomfortable way to stand
Lots of love man you're getting extremely good.
I'm bad at sketchbooks, have a tumblr!
Thanks, man (or woman? ). I hadn't thought about over-feminization... I am a dedicated fan of over-posing, regardless of gender and species...
I'll try to keep that it in mind so that it doesn't look ridiculous though when it's not what I'm intending. That aiel woman (spearlady) was just a character concept to begin with, then it sorta turned into a scene, so I didn't really plan for that pose to have to communicate something.
The problem that I see with it is that it's not a very aiel or warrior way to stand, I don't think an aiel would ever strike that pose. Maybe that's what you mean, it's not too feminine per se but it's too feminine for a warrior?
I'm not being defensive, just trying to understand what it is I'm doing wrong and why and how I could fix it.
Edit: Just came back to it some time later, and now I see it. Yeah the pose is definetily not appropriate for the setting. I'll have to think more about attitude even in my character studies I suppose... It's refreshing sometimes to realize exactly how bad your work is. At least it feels like I'm getting some kind of insight... Thanks!
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I bought myself a new sketchbook the other day, the old one was full. So here are some sketch dumps!
Nothing special... First one, trying to capture sexy again... These were pretty fast. Then some life.
Some more. These are from my girlfriend's flamenco-class. It's their fourth lesson so there wasn't a lot of skirt-twirling, but still productive for me. Good practice on drawing the body in motion, although they look pretty inanimate in the sketches. I drew it all with a pretty soft pencil, which in retrospect feels like a mistake. The new sketchbook takes some getting used to....
Last are some pose-doodles.
Any and all tips on improvement are appreciated! Thanks!
Last edited by Whyatt Thrash; September 18th, 2007 at 12:22 PM.
Would just like to add that I crit hard, and expect the same in return. I don't need no soft around the edges, I need to improve in any way I can. So anything that you think might help me advance, just throw it at me.
Please, tear me apart!
Great progress man . You seem to have trained your eye, I recognized all the celebs that you drew. One thing I think you should work on more is line quality. You should relax your arm a little and be loose. That's one thing I'm striving for as well. Also try to simplify your values more and think in 6 basic types of values for each independent object: [highlight, local value, halftone], [core shadow, reflected light, cast shadow]. Try to always think ahead and decide which value goes to which category, and don't mix them. Good luck, keep sketching!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I really dig your anatomy studies. Which book(s) are u using?
Yeah I agree on the line quality. I've had a bad couple of days when I can't draw worth of crap. And I seem to regress to old mistakes and old ways and it just makes me feel like crap. I really need to start improving lines again...
I don't quite understand what you mean about the shadows... What's "local value"? And what do you mean by not mixing values? That I shouldn't let a cast shadow overlap a core shadow? I'm confused...
The anatomy studies are from here: http://www.amazon.com/Artistic-Anato...189797&sr=1-10
It's basically a reference book of muscles and bones, like a medical encyclopedia but from an artists point of view. It's pretty cool.
I'm waiting on getting some Hogarth books but damn Amazon takes forever... Two days late already! Come on, I don't have forever to learn this stuff!!
Yeah the light theory really kills me. I try to understand it as best I can but I dunno why I find it so difficult. Sorry to be a bother, but could you point out some recent sketch that looks like I tried hard to reflect shadow and colour correctly and messed this up?
There are a lot of recent life sketches with moving bodies where I just tried to capture the form in a quick way and didn't really care about value, so I know that those are all wrong. You think I should focus as much on value as on form on those studies?
Your sketches named 'Looking_out_by_WhyattThrash', that sketch on the far right, also the left sketch in 'dump10' file, that's a good example of where you should probably direct your rendering prtactice, they are really good. Simple values, easily readable when zoomed out.
As for the studies, if you're quicksketching, you are striving to capture proportions, rhythm, balance, and/or basic tonal plan at best (just simple light and simple shadow). If you are doing value studies, you are focusing on both drawing and rendering. You should probably do both imo. Drawing is the basic building block, but value comes right after.
Well, that's about it. Try to get a hold of some of that learning material. Good luck dude, keep on sketching
You got some really great work here, it's hard to find something to criticize, what are you aiming for through your art? realism? I'm not that great with a pencil myself, but as far as your digital art goes, it looks like you did the digital paintings from a pencil sketch because you kept your original shading from the pencil piece (especially of the dragon). Try painting something from scratch digitally, or at least re-doing the shadows over with digital paint.
Edit: Realized my post didn't make any sense, so I changed it to sound a little less contradicting..
Geez, there are several things I'm trying to learn. The things that are most important to me now are:
- Realism. Recreating shadows and lines "correctly". I've never cared much for it in my final presentation of art, but I want to learn it nevertheless. Maybe it sounds crazy, but I just want to learn it cause I feel it'll lift the quality of everything else I do even though I never apply it...
- how to present a theme and pose/motion through simple line gestures
- how to create an emotional piece through use of value and not lines.
- line quality in itself is not a priority for me right now, the general communication of the piece feels a lot more valid at this time.. I've realized that my linework has declined recently, it used to be pretty confident... I think it's due to me now working with whole new themes, styles, and ways of drawing lines, and I think my hand just isn't accustomed to all the new types of lines I'm doing. When I draw the same type of lines I've always done I have the same confidence as always. But with all the new stuff I try to do, I look like a bloody noob... Frustrating! One step forward - two frigging steps back! So I'm confident the line quality will come eventually, when I get more accustomed to my new way of working...
I understand that while my goals aren't mutually exclusive, they are difficult to achieve simultaneously. But still, these are my current goals. That, and anatomy. Always anatomy.
I'm currently studying anatomy and perspective, and combining studies with drawing from life, and moving/still images.
Last edited by Whyatt Thrash; September 24th, 2007 at 07:59 AM.
can i ask if you are doing skull studies? some of your faces look really wonky, like you didn't start with a sphere and created the guidlines. I never used too, but I have been recently and it has made a large difference in my heads.
if you look some where in my sketchbook there are stick figures, if you want to depict poses in quick strokes those are they way to go, and it is always best to learn big!
i don't have much else to say because i m still learning too