didn't see that this was posted anywhere...
I remember reading the trilogy a few years back. This looks pretty well awesome:
i read the trilogy about a year ago. the first book was awesome, the second 2 books seemed more like 1 book broken into 2 books, and the ending of the series had about the lamest and a complete contradiction to everything the book was leading up too.
the movie looks alright to me, may see it, may not, we'll see.
I'm with Intern. The first book was absolutely wonderful, the second had some neat stuff but lost focus. I was hoping he'd pull it all together in the third, but instead it was a mess that seamed like it was written by a totally different person.
I wonder how Hollywood is going to market the anti-religious angle?
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Now that I think about it, I don't think I ever finished the trilogy. I remember the whole dimensional travel bit, with dagger the one kid had, and some stuff about God and angels and some sort of rebellion, but I don't think I ever I finished the last book...
I posted a thread about it Oregano, but hey, it doesn't matter! Everyone ignores me anyway!
As for the anti-religious angle, I hope they stick to it by the letter of the book. That is the whole point of much of the subtext, and watering it down for a mass audience would be pretty criminal. However, as a tale the books will hold up by themselves anyway. Really looking forward to it!
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From the trailer, the whole clockwork/Edwardian society they've done for the movie has really got me excited. That and Kidman looks perfect for her part.
Didn't MB do some of the concept for this film, or am I confused?
i actually disagree that the books areanti-religious...i say its more anti-establishment. Religion, of course, being one of the most well known establishments, is used in this case.
But its really getting at the MAN getting you down. You see the theme pop up throughout the series (Iorek vs. Iofur, The Witches, waring factions, etc.)
wasn´t the girl supposed to be a little younger? hmmm..-never mind.... gonna be cool.
i believe to have seen a painting for it in the massive-black-thread in the final-finished. am i wrong?
They did one piece for EA. But SEGA got the license, and Shiny is now wolring on the title.Didn't MB do some of the concept for this film, or am I confused?
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Oregano - I'll shout if I have to! Nicole Kidman was always Pullmans choice for the role of Mrs Coulter, so she's perfect. I saw some lovely Dark Materials work from MB, but I'm not sure they actually did anything on the movie.However, I believe some of the character concept was done by Linda Bergkvist.
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Apparently they're toning down the anti-religion aspects and concentrating the story on Lyra... which is a total cop out (although completely understandable from a financial perspective).
And the second and third book just got worse and worse, which was such a shame after the beautiful start. When I read fantasy I don't want it coming back into the real world. AND THE ENDING OMFG! What was he thinking? Trying to be different? A completely arbitrary rule he just invented in the last chapter so that the characters couldn't ever live in happiness and had lost everything that made them special... that a really dull move by pullman, nobody want's to a book to end like that. I could have forgiven the rambling story up until then, but the ending made me throw down the book in disgust.
Oh, and His Dark Materials is totally anti-religion. You can split hairs and say it's anti-'organised'-religion, but I can tell you that's it's not pro-'unorganised'-religion (or any sort of inner spirituality either). The book is an aetheist attack on Narnia.. and it almost does a good job of it, but just falls short unfortunately when Pullman mixes up his priorities between broadcasting his message and simply telling a good story (different but equally sad corruption of what happened in the movie 'Dogma'; good start, but got lost in the invented mythology and forgot where the 'meat' of the movie was, in the thoughtful dialogue).
Looks good, I read the first book, then got into the Sabriel (Garth Nix) series and never read the others. Although my cousin told me what happens at the end of the last one.
I hate the fact they changed the name though, It is not a compass it is a bloody Alethiometer!
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I just read the trilogy and it was a good read. The second book didn't feel like a full book though and the ending was really irksome "oh you can't live happy ever after because of such and such a rule" oh bs!
It's a shame it will most likely go the way of chronicles of narnia with a cool book backing it but just shoddy direction relying too much on special effects and completely ignoring everything else. Not enough decent directors are going into fantasy.
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I met Phillip Pullman when I saw the second half of the stage production of His Dark Materials in London England.
God that man is intimidating!
But they are definitely my favourite books of all time. Even if he can't write a battle scene to save his life.
yeah, i enjoyed the books. the end of the last one was pretty ghey, but i kind of expected that.
the movie however, was a turd. a thick heavy one, so full of shit that it sank to the bottom with beautiful special effects.