Perfection or Improvement? Technique or Improvisation?
I've been seeing too much of all the pros' stuff from these boards. Look at Coro or Andrew's work. Friggin amazing. It's almost a bit discouraging, until you read deeper and find out Coro's been doing it for years, and aside from the occasional "kewl technique!!!" self portraits Andrew does, they're all the same, really. i mean, after drawing the same features for more than a month, it's probably at the point where he barely has to look at himself. Right?
Well anyways, I'm a self taught artist, i'd like to say i'm pretty good. But i still need to improve.
Should i, in my sketchbooks, blackbooks, or scrap scribbling, strive for perfection? spend a few days on one really good page, or should i do a whole bunch of really quick, under an hour sketches to familiarise myself with my own little idiosyncracies (retracing lines too much, nonunififed lighting, poor detail distribution, no focal points) and overcome them?
Should i create a technique that works and stick to it? Or should i try mixing media or matirials and techniques to sort of improv a new technique? I'd like to get a technique down, to sort of compliment my style (rough, raw...) so i've been trying brush pens. They're really expressive, and a simple stick figure takes on new life and personality
I've been tooling around with Coro's technique- pencil outline, ink, color wash (i use markers), pencil, and gouche *sp*. I like the results, but it doesn't work for me.
What should i do? I want to imitate different styles, particularly Jon Foster's stuff, and Wes9000's stuff. I want to imitate and adapt, but not copy. It's just a matter of experimentation, so it's no big deal, but i'm wondering if i should wait till i've established my own style before attempting to adopt someone else's.
Re: Perfection or Improvement? Technique or Improvisation?
you should do only what you want to do. because if you don't, you will never improve, neither your way nor anyone's way.
Originally posted by !Deaf!Dumb!Blind!
What should i do?
stop thinking 'how and why does this guy or this other do?', because you will never follow his way : first of all every guy has his own number of neurons in his brain and nerves in the hand, so basically biologically speaking you are different from anyone. so try to just match yourself!
do you by any chance know what you want? if not, don't even try to go on : you will only change your course every now and then, instead of following one for long (that will teach you something before you change again but by yourself this time!!)
what sounds odd to me is you say you know what is doing 30 times the 'same' thing : it's "technique". you sure? i'm not. it's "getting used", but it can always be AS intuitive AS technic, even after a thousand pics i think.
just take your pen and your regular white paper and draw. your brain thinks while you draw, be confident in it! :)
Sorry about coming off as controversial...
i didn't intend (maybe i did, unchecked aggression maybe?) to sound like i was attacking anyone's work, i was sort of inquring as to why it's done like that. Maybe to minimize variables? same expression= more focus on other aspects.
I just have very little conficence in my own art... I see what others do and see them get praised or complimented, and i attempt to do the same thing, either subject matter or drawing matirials and technique or color scheme, whatever. It hasn't worked for me yet, but i'll keep trying. I've got the whole summer to do a lot of art. work n stuff sucks, but at least that'll take me away from my art, make me want to do it more.
I've stumbled in here on the wrong foot... i hope this won't affect future criticism of my work.
I guess i was just asking for a second, or third opinion.
Thanks for the help, and i apologise for my ignorance... but not my stupidity. I'm working on that.
Oh, and on another note, does anyone think that handwriting analysis/early childhood drawing analysis/drawing analysis for psychological assessment is, um... solid? I mean can you really tell anything about a person by the way they draw? i'm not talking about subject matter, anyone can draw dismembered nude women and try to plead insanity, but as in the way they render. lines, strokes, pressure... all that.
I once took a figure drawing class, and one of the other students taught young children, i think kindergarten. She mentioned that in some cases children who had been molested would draw the hip/groin area of the human figures squared off. very blocky. Oh and that's when my psychologist started requesting to see my art, she said off the records but i looked through the notes and found notes about disturbing subject matter and aggressiveness... so i'm interested in what she's basing this on. I didn't think it would have been a good idea to start another thread just for this little sidenote.
Thanks again, bengal, MindCandyMan, sparth, R_M, GhostofMacbeth,egerie, and anyone who read this.